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I made my aim in participating in these discussions very clear,a number of times.
When patients are in a quandary as to what to do,I would like to chip in,with my piece of advice.
It is upto them to take it not.
I will do the same,irrespective of the prescriber.No bias need be atached.
If the patient specifically wants me not to intervene, I respect their wish.
Murthy
When patients are in a quandary as to what to do,I would like to chip in,with my piece of advice.
It is upto them to take it not.
I will do the same,irrespective of the prescriber.No bias need be atached.
If the patient specifically wants me not to intervene, I respect their wish.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 2 decades ago
murthy--this is betwen pankaj and myself--something that has been going on since i came to this forum---time for an agreement...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
John,
As one individual to another, I appreciate the time and effort you devote to people on this Forum.
It is an extra -ordinary effort. i also appreciate your skill.
However, people have a right to think differently and express their difference of opinion.....otherwise you are negating the basic purpose of the FORUM.
Also, I never make any personal - negative comments on any one. However, I do let my difference of opinion (on the topic) be known where ever I differ.
Just as Murty says, if the original questioner has no desire to hear any specific person's views....he/she can ask that person to shut up !
Think about it after two hours and then comment.
Good Luck
Best,
Pankaj Varma
As one individual to another, I appreciate the time and effort you devote to people on this Forum.
It is an extra -ordinary effort. i also appreciate your skill.
However, people have a right to think differently and express their difference of opinion.....otherwise you are negating the basic purpose of the FORUM.
Also, I never make any personal - negative comments on any one. However, I do let my difference of opinion (on the topic) be known where ever I differ.
Just as Murty says, if the original questioner has no desire to hear any specific person's views....he/she can ask that person to shut up !
Think about it after two hours and then comment.
Good Luck
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
pankaj--again DO NOT mis-interpret! there is no problem with different expressions AT ALL! The problem is you PUSH!!! your remedies--a solicitation of sorts---yet no problem with that---if you were to follow your own advice of not being impatient--you would have allowed silvia's feel good state to continue--until next step was needed --but you did not---no reason for her to feel weepy--so --i did not repremand you --i recommended nux-v 200c again (1 pellet)..remember patient's choice...i didnt push......if phos gave that feel good ---you would have been proud --but since you didnt make that prescription--you acted narrow minded -and accused-and I FREAKED OUT--i dont expect you to see your faults in this--and it isnt my concern really whether you understand...i trust this will not occur again --and if does then around we go...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Phosphorus was recommended by me John...right from the start (along with Ignitia)....and so many disputed it at that time.
Later, all the symptoms pointed towards what I had suggested.However, you were too keeen to push with Nux Vomica becos you never wanted anyone else to gain appreciation.
I think it is a waste of time getting into a discussion with you ...becos you always want to show that you are RIGHT. NOT REALLY SO !!!!!
Pankaj Varma
Later, all the symptoms pointed towards what I had suggested.However, you were too keeen to push with Nux Vomica becos you never wanted anyone else to gain appreciation.
I think it is a waste of time getting into a discussion with you ...becos you always want to show that you are RIGHT. NOT REALLY SO !!!!!
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
pankaj---if anyone were to take the careful time to reread the thread closely--it will be seen whom is PUSHING/selling there view!
but it doesn't really matter because the patient chooses whom he/she will listen to--and this is how it will be---
and YES IT IS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME GETTING INTO A DISCUSSION WITH ME..and sure i would like to be correct all the time--we all know how far "would like" takes us...not always as far as the truth--often into self deception and blind ignorance of our own faults....
well since you can't change me --and i can't change you---WHEN and IF!!!!! WE WILL CHANGE OURSELVES or NOT!
Again i dont care how you behave--but leave me out of your personal ignorance ...and comments that lack insight..based upon your "fear of being wrong""...
but it doesn't really matter because the patient chooses whom he/she will listen to--and this is how it will be---
and YES IT IS A WASTE OF YOUR TIME GETTING INTO A DISCUSSION WITH ME..and sure i would like to be correct all the time--we all know how far "would like" takes us...not always as far as the truth--often into self deception and blind ignorance of our own faults....
well since you can't change me --and i can't change you---WHEN and IF!!!!! WE WILL CHANGE OURSELVES or NOT!
Again i dont care how you behave--but leave me out of your personal ignorance ...and comments that lack insight..based upon your "fear of being wrong""...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
John....you call people "spineless"...."hypocrite" and what not.....then you want them to call you back "nothing" ??
Don't start it....that is the quality of a mature man.
Communication is two ways....speaking and listening....not just speaking, speaking ,,,speaking !!
All progress has taken place in the world because some-one stood up to question "rigidly held views".
When the Beetle car prototype was made......the "knowledge-able" said ...won't sell becos it is air-cooled !!
when some-one put down the first drawing of an aircraft prototype...."the knowledge-able" said....how can something heavier than air fly ??
When some-one said the earth is round...."the knowledge-able" said ...banish him !!
"the knowledge-able"..were proved wrong !!
All progress in the world takes place becos some-one stands up to question "rigidly held views" !!
Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
Don't start it....that is the quality of a mature man.
Communication is two ways....speaking and listening....not just speaking, speaking ,,,speaking !!
All progress has taken place in the world because some-one stood up to question "rigidly held views".
When the Beetle car prototype was made......the "knowledge-able" said ...won't sell becos it is air-cooled !!
when some-one put down the first drawing of an aircraft prototype...."the knowledge-able" said....how can something heavier than air fly ??
When some-one said the earth is round...."the knowledge-able" said ...banish him !!
"the knowledge-able"..were proved wrong !!
All progress in the world takes place becos some-one stands up to question "rigidly held views" !!
Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
pankaj--your way off base---getting a litle carried away---follow your own advise and just reread this thread ...you may see something concerning your behavior here--but maybe not... so dont give speeches about listening and speaking----an ddont go being foolish about equating this situation to progress and aircrafts---boy ,,you really do get off the point--to defend your almighty words----anyone can tell --just reread thread--easy---no problem...and SEE..
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
I was thinking , maybe I should add a few of my traits i am not very proud of to help you to understand my personality and find a cure.:
- passive / negativist nature : i would spend my days whining how miserable my life is, how this is bad, that is useless... without doing anything to change it. I noticed when other people feel for example lonely, they go and meet friends, socialize and so on / do something practical about it/
I dont, i keep lamenting, get myself into depression and my problems look even bigger.eventually too big to face them.
I dint seem to be able act and sort out problems and make myself feeling good.
I cant take care of my wellbeing.
I always depend on someone to make me feel happy/miserable.
- I often spoil peoples fun, kill their excitement and put everything down. its almost like i want people not to be that happy and excited.
For ex.I am very cold when i should e.g congratulate someone on their succes....
- I have to be very careful when i am with other people not to put them down all the time, not critizise them and i have to make an effort to be positive.
It sometimes feels I actually get something out of being always miserable, whiny and complaining.....
I am very critical of everything and everyone, i see faults in everything. If i had my way i would want the best of the best of everything, but i cant have it...
Looking back as a child i was bit serious child / didnt like stupid, shallow kids with , worshiping superficial values....../. they found me a bit old fashioned... I had that feeling that most people are very superficial. in my teenage years it sort of came in handy, as being depressed / meaning "deeply thinking" / was considered cool. It looks ridiculus to me now, but i still see everything black. its as if being unhappy is my basic, natural hardware, occasionaly alternated with happier days software.../ but when i am happy, i am radiant, shining, you can see it..I have extreme feelings in terms of happy-sad.
I cant see the world positively, i am scared of future, i think there is nothing nothing good for me there. i always see the worst case scenario...
you can imagine where this thinking is getting me...
I have no lust for life.../ no way suicidal tendencies.../
my mum says i not happy anywhere/this is third country i live in.../ and with anything...I am starting to realize that problem is not in the country i live in, but in my mind...
I hope i didnt get you depressed as well:-)
thanks
Silvia
- passive / negativist nature : i would spend my days whining how miserable my life is, how this is bad, that is useless... without doing anything to change it. I noticed when other people feel for example lonely, they go and meet friends, socialize and so on / do something practical about it/
I dont, i keep lamenting, get myself into depression and my problems look even bigger.eventually too big to face them.
I dint seem to be able act and sort out problems and make myself feeling good.
I cant take care of my wellbeing.
I always depend on someone to make me feel happy/miserable.
- I often spoil peoples fun, kill their excitement and put everything down. its almost like i want people not to be that happy and excited.
For ex.I am very cold when i should e.g congratulate someone on their succes....
- I have to be very careful when i am with other people not to put them down all the time, not critizise them and i have to make an effort to be positive.
It sometimes feels I actually get something out of being always miserable, whiny and complaining.....
I am very critical of everything and everyone, i see faults in everything. If i had my way i would want the best of the best of everything, but i cant have it...
Looking back as a child i was bit serious child / didnt like stupid, shallow kids with , worshiping superficial values....../. they found me a bit old fashioned... I had that feeling that most people are very superficial. in my teenage years it sort of came in handy, as being depressed / meaning "deeply thinking" / was considered cool. It looks ridiculus to me now, but i still see everything black. its as if being unhappy is my basic, natural hardware, occasionaly alternated with happier days software.../ but when i am happy, i am radiant, shining, you can see it..I have extreme feelings in terms of happy-sad.
I cant see the world positively, i am scared of future, i think there is nothing nothing good for me there. i always see the worst case scenario...
you can imagine where this thinking is getting me...
I have no lust for life.../ no way suicidal tendencies.../
my mum says i not happy anywhere/this is third country i live in.../ and with anything...I am starting to realize that problem is not in the country i live in, but in my mind...
I hope i didnt get you depressed as well:-)
thanks
Silvia
silvia153 2 decades ago
how does your current (right now) state compare to the past in aspects you mentioned in previous post?
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Compared to the past I am more cheerful, less serious, more enjoying life, and less depressive./mainly compared to my teenage years/
Its a progress, but small.
But still my mind frame is programmed to be miserable.
Still i have got that big fear that i will be lonely / i can actually feel the pain of being lonely , its a sort of physical.../ , forgotten, emotionaly down and crying at home and i would be not able to help myself.
These thoughts are maybe more intense now, as we are at the point with my boyfriend when we are deciding if we stay together or split.
Thats why my fears are coming even more alive./ its like a regres into that bad emotional state i was when i split from my first boyfriend.../
silvia
Its a progress, but small.
But still my mind frame is programmed to be miserable.
Still i have got that big fear that i will be lonely / i can actually feel the pain of being lonely , its a sort of physical.../ , forgotten, emotionaly down and crying at home and i would be not able to help myself.
These thoughts are maybe more intense now, as we are at the point with my boyfriend when we are deciding if we stay together or split.
Thats why my fears are coming even more alive./ its like a regres into that bad emotional state i was when i split from my first boyfriend.../
silvia
silvia153 2 decades ago
yes--this is life's process---challenges us --often with relentless vigour..restructuing your life is your effort at this time--as homoeopathy can only open you to options --but you'll have to use your conscious choosing to develop new life style--more conducive to good feelings --thus you will create your own reality---if based on what is happy and good for you--then you shall be living such---yet we all have to strive for such--not always is it handed so easily---
start now by simplifying your life...as far as boyfriend and yourself--no worry about such--it will unfold the direction as it will...once you have decided joy is what you will for your life--then all things (from treatments to relationships) will come as fits...just love each other for the now--no problem---no need shed tears for the unlived yet--plenty of time for misery when the REAL time arrives--but then we cry and simply move on---and homoeopathy helps us move on--from old illnesss patterns to more qualified living...
start now by simplifying your life...as far as boyfriend and yourself--no worry about such--it will unfold the direction as it will...once you have decided joy is what you will for your life--then all things (from treatments to relationships) will come as fits...just love each other for the now--no problem---no need shed tears for the unlived yet--plenty of time for misery when the REAL time arrives--but then we cry and simply move on---and homoeopathy helps us move on--from old illnesss patterns to more qualified living...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Hello,
A day before I started taking Phosphorus I had to take Postinor /2 tablets-one day/
My feedback after Phosphorus
1. day of taking:
-headache
-very thirsty after cold drinks
-feverish
-burning, itchy eyes
- weepy, sad
2.day
-cranky
-feverish
-headache
-muscle pain, overall weakness of miuscles/especially in thights/
3.day
- cranky
-headache
- thights pain, weakness
4.day
very cranky
-sleepy, tired
-headache
-slept in the afternoon, woke up tired
-weakness, pain in my thights
5.day
- weakness of muscles /tights/
- better mood
6.day
- got my period earlier / probably reaction to postinor /
- weak, sore thights
-
7.day
- mood better
8. day
- mental state - very good
-this was the first day i felt better, mentally and physically. I laughed a lot, danced, felt happy.
Regarding my reactions, communication and feelings i can put them at test everyday as i work as a waitress.
i didnt not panic and overreact at work /both positive and negative emotions/, i was much more in control of myself, more at peace...i didnt take negative emotions to the heart as much as usually...
i dont get that angry and frustrated when things are not going my way...
i dont feel stupid when i talk to people..
i even didnt mind having a sex. intercourse, which is quite rare with me these days. it also happened after nux vomica, this increased libido.
- my acne seems to be going a bit worse
9.day
mood still good, the same as yesterday
- acne worse
10.day
the same state of mind
- acne same state
Lots of my cranky mood can be probably put down to the morning after pill.
I took this pill once a year ago, but i didnt have any negative reactions to it/ such as early period, or moodiness.../as i had this time.
Do you think this pill affected the healing process of Phosphorus in any way?
shall i repeat it in such a case.
Thanks
Silvia
A day before I started taking Phosphorus I had to take Postinor /2 tablets-one day/
My feedback after Phosphorus
1. day of taking:
-headache
-very thirsty after cold drinks
-feverish
-burning, itchy eyes
- weepy, sad
2.day
-cranky
-feverish
-headache
-muscle pain, overall weakness of miuscles/especially in thights/
3.day
- cranky
-headache
- thights pain, weakness
4.day
very cranky
-sleepy, tired
-headache
-slept in the afternoon, woke up tired
-weakness, pain in my thights
5.day
- weakness of muscles /tights/
- better mood
6.day
- got my period earlier / probably reaction to postinor /
- weak, sore thights
-
7.day
- mood better
8. day
- mental state - very good
-this was the first day i felt better, mentally and physically. I laughed a lot, danced, felt happy.
Regarding my reactions, communication and feelings i can put them at test everyday as i work as a waitress.
i didnt not panic and overreact at work /both positive and negative emotions/, i was much more in control of myself, more at peace...i didnt take negative emotions to the heart as much as usually...
i dont get that angry and frustrated when things are not going my way...
i dont feel stupid when i talk to people..
i even didnt mind having a sex. intercourse, which is quite rare with me these days. it also happened after nux vomica, this increased libido.
- my acne seems to be going a bit worse
9.day
mood still good, the same as yesterday
- acne worse
10.day
the same state of mind
- acne same state
Lots of my cranky mood can be probably put down to the morning after pill.
I took this pill once a year ago, but i didnt have any negative reactions to it/ such as early period, or moodiness.../as i had this time.
Do you think this pill affected the healing process of Phosphorus in any way?
shall i repeat it in such a case.
Thanks
Silvia
silvia153 2 decades ago
not sure if pill effect as such---but if haven't felt this way in long time (happy) --then attribute to phosphorous response..no other remedy yet .see where this goes...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Hello,
I am afraid that the phosphorus effect is wearing off.
it started yesterday with anxiety and headache from people in a shop.
it gradually worsen, so in the evening i didnt feel comfortable to talk to people anymore.
today i seem to be back where i was before - sensitive, moody, feeling stupid for my behaviour, not enough self-confidence and angry at evey little thing...
so back to my old myself...
silvia
I am afraid that the phosphorus effect is wearing off.
it started yesterday with anxiety and headache from people in a shop.
it gradually worsen, so in the evening i didnt feel comfortable to talk to people anymore.
today i seem to be back where i was before - sensitive, moody, feeling stupid for my behaviour, not enough self-confidence and angry at evey little thing...
so back to my old myself...
silvia
silvia153 2 decades ago
"....it started yesterday with anxiety and headache from people in a shop.
it gradually worsen, so in the evening i didnt feel comfortable to talk to people anymore. ...."
concerning the above statement---which of the above symptoms never experienced before in life?which have been experienced before? please explain...
any new symptoms at all?
it gradually worsen, so in the evening i didnt feel comfortable to talk to people anymore. ...."
concerning the above statement---which of the above symptoms never experienced before in life?which have been experienced before? please explain...
any new symptoms at all?
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
anxiety from noise and crowds i had before /on and off, stronger/lighter.../
- i just maybe feel more frustrated and angry than ever before.
otherwise all symptoms are familiar to me...
no new sumptoms observed...
- i just maybe feel more frustrated and angry than ever before.
otherwise all symptoms are familiar to me...
no new sumptoms observed...
silvia153 2 decades ago
Do you feel PHOSPHORUS helped you in some way for some time....then repeat another dose.
Post feed back again.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
Post feed back again.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
I thought it was just coincidence but since started taking phosphorus i have been weather sensitive again. This is something i experience last time 10 years ago...
Here in sydney, the weather has been very changable, and so am i...good weather = good mood, bad weather=bad mood.
yesterday we had a rain in the evening, but you could feel it coming all day. i was very angry, felt really violent and developed headache, which got worse after it started raining...i had this headache basically all day, which is quite unusuall.its symptoms from 10 years ago...
Pankaj, repeat only one dose?
thanks
silvia
Here in sydney, the weather has been very changable, and so am i...good weather = good mood, bad weather=bad mood.
yesterday we had a rain in the evening, but you could feel it coming all day. i was very angry, felt really violent and developed headache, which got worse after it started raining...i had this headache basically all day, which is quite unusuall.its symptoms from 10 years ago...
Pankaj, repeat only one dose?
thanks
silvia
silvia153 2 decades ago
sorry --if no problem with pankaj or yourself----
---single dose (3pellets) 'only' phosphorous 200c----no repetiton
avoid--salt;seafood;high sodium foods;chlorinated water;all breads;milk;rich foods;spices;all acidic foods and drinks (coffee;tea;alcoholic beverages;vinegar;fruits and juices;all carbonated soft drinks;..etc)
no other medicines;remedies (even herbal) (antibiotics;skin lotions/cremes/ointments;aspirin/painkillers;...etc)
keep us closely informed...
---single dose (3pellets) 'only' phosphorous 200c----no repetiton
avoid--salt;seafood;high sodium foods;chlorinated water;all breads;milk;rich foods;spices;all acidic foods and drinks (coffee;tea;alcoholic beverages;vinegar;fruits and juices;all carbonated soft drinks;..etc)
no other medicines;remedies (even herbal) (antibiotics;skin lotions/cremes/ointments;aspirin/painkillers;...etc)
keep us closely informed...
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
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