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High BP please help

Hi, I am 30 years old female and recently I have started having high BP between 140/100 - 160/110 which comes with headache and dizziness. Three years ago I suffered a brain stroke, which was caused by my hereditory disease called Factor V Leiden (coagulation problem). Could you please advise me if there is any homeopatic that can help? Thanks
 
  zuzi2801 on 2008-01-11
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Dear Zuzi, this is not something which should be treated online. Sometimes with remedies there is what we call 'Homoeopathic aggravation', where the symptoms will temporarily intensify after the application of a remedy, and with your tendency toward strokes, taking advice on an interent forum would not be a good idea. I would recommend you seek a competent Homoeopathic physician in your area.
 
Dr Organon last decade
Many and many patients of High BP have been helped here on this forum.

Dr Organon, this forum is like a community. Please first let the whole community interact with the patient. If at the end patient realizes that he/she needs professional help ... so then be it.

At other website patients are referred to the Classical Homeopaths at just first post, we do not want to install that culture here.
 
girilal last decade
zuzi, once I had a chance to treat a patient of Factor V Leiden (coagulation problem).

You need following medicines in cycles: Lachisis, Arnica and Belladonna.

Lachisis is for coagulation. Arnica is for circulation and blood thinning. Belladonna is blood vessels dilator.

Please get all these medicines. First Belladonna 30 once a day at alternate days.

Arnica 6C once a day at bedtime.

Lachisis 30 one dose once a week.

You will see wonder in three weeks.
 
girilal last decade
I have merely given the advice I see fit, as any Homoeopath is free to do. If the patient chooses not to take this and pursue online treatment, that is entirely THEIR choice, which should not be coersed by anyone. If the patient has another stroke as a result of aggravation, are YOU going to take responsibility for this?

It is also irrelevant what you do or do not 'wish to install' here, as you do not run this forum. If my advice contravenes any guidelines set down, then I am sure the moderator will make me aware of this, as this is his job, not yours.
 
Dr Organon last decade
Dr Organon, I only asked three weeks of the patients time to prove that homeopathy works. Patient can also continue his other emergency medications.
 
girilal last decade
Many people come to the Forum after spending substantial sums of money with practicing homeopaths...and after utter frustration from their greedy ways.

I get at least 2/3 e-mails with such details every month.

If such patients are pushed back to the practicing homeopath...the purpose of the Forum is defeated.

(Moddy...hope you are reading this....the latest such e-mail came to me from her).

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I request Dr Organon not to send patient away from this forum.

As Dr Mehmood said: there are one million ways to serve a patient.

There is only one way not to serve is to turn the patient away.
 
girilal last decade
'Dr Organon, I only asked three weeks of the patients time to prove that homeopathy works. Patient can also continue his other emergency medications.'

Well Mr Girilal, my only concern is for the safety of the patient, not to prove whether or not Homoeopathy works, as this is not something I question.
 
Dr Organon last decade
'I request Dr Organon not to send patient away from this forum.

As Dr Mehmood said: there are one million ways to serve a patient.

There is only one way not to serve is to turn the patient away.'

You may request all you like Mr Girilal, but if I feel an individual has a condition serious enough to require the actual hands on attention of a Homoeopath, or even the immediate attention of an allopathic health care professional for that matter, rather than online advice, I will recommend this. My only concern is the well being of the patient, not my own gratification of seeing progress, or 'proving' Homoeopathy works.

There are of course two ways in which not to serve the patient, not just one, the other being to endanger his life or damage his long term health irrecoverably.
 
Dr Organon last decade
Thanks a lot for your replies. However, after reading them I am a bit confused whether to start taking it or not. What are the possible adverse effects and will I take any risks if I decide to go ahead?
 
zuzi2801 last decade
This would be dependent upon many factors, and I can only reiterate again my opinion that with your medical history you should be under the care and supervision of an actual Homoeopath, rather than seeking advice online for this complaint, as yes, I do believe there is a risk involved.

It is of course completely your choice whether or not to pursue this though.

The best of luck.
 
Dr Organon last decade
zuzi2801, in my life I saw thousands of patients, what I told you was the result of my experience.

You can try this recipe when there is no other solution is left, even after you see some Classical Homeopath and still you stay same.

Many patients come to us who were ruined by Classical Homeopaths who give you a dose and tell you to wait for 2 weeks or so and in two weeks much damage occur.

But in 2 weeks magic may happen with my recipe. Good luck.
 
girilal last decade
How long should I take them for?
 
zuzi2801 last decade
Take these only for 3 weeks. If you feel any improvements, then take just any one single medicine and feel its effects. Feel the effect of all medicines then you decide the dosage and if you need one or all.

But first 3 weeks take as I told you.
 
girilal last decade
Hi, I have been taking the medicines for 1.5 weeks now and I have seen a huge improvement. My bp is now 120/60mp, which is great but another problem has occured. My right hand and foot has starting to go icy cold with my toes going blue. Could you please advise what to do? Thanks
 
zuzi2801 last decade
dr.girilal,i am following the case with interest i am also bp patient. pl.respond to zuzi.
regards
 
bapu4 last decade
To Bapu

I believe that I was the first person who discovered the potential of Arnica to reduce Hypertension (Blood Pressure) about 15 years ago and I recorded my discovery on the ABC and other Homeopathic forums that I visited at that time.

I am now 81 years of age and my BP is
 
Joe De Livera last decade
I know atleast a hundred old people who are free from Diabeltes and BP without taking any medicine.

To attribute the state of being free from diabetes and BP to a particular medicine is the height of foolishness.

Unless the underlying cause for getting high BP is addressed these 'this for that' therapies won't work.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
mr.murthy,
how to detect under lying cause? cause the pathological tests also generally fail to detect,more so they are inconvenient and normally negative or many a times a wroong pathologial test is decided by doctors this is my personal experience it is better to decide under lying cause by symptoms but that really needs experienced and expert mind which i confess i dont have thats why i am on the forum,i wud be more than pleased to have it detected,i can answer the specific question.
respected joe,
i keep reading your posts and amused with such great resuts with arnica,but my experience is not that good with arnica(to be dead honest)pl. dont take it otherwise,i started cervical pain with wet dose of 30 and i immly stopped it ithought why unnecessaryly damage your statics.
i unprejudicely welcome ur guidence you are doing social service selflessly,i know you arnica is not your production,nor you have any personal interest,but iwud request you not to universalise a medicine for all the problems.or if yes as per pl.add my case in the other pan of your balane of statistics,this is all with humble an regards to you.i honour you for your dedication.pl. no anty issues.
 
bapu4 last decade
Hi Bapu

Any disease expresses itself by certain signs and symptoms. In homeopathy we try to see the deviations from normal, the PQRS (peculiar, queer, rare and strange) symptoms, the heriditary aspects, the life style of the person etc and use them in selecting the remedy.

It is difficult to do that in a forum set up. We get good inputs when we see and observe a person. It is essential for prescribing for a problem like BP.

You might have visited a few homeopaths but many not be happy with the results. My advice will be to keep trying for a capable homeopath. It definitely need lot of enquiring but is worth it.

Joe always taunts me for my inability to prescribe on the forums. I can easily tell you to take rauwolfia serpentina in mother tincture form (10 drops to an ounce of water) and observe the progress.

It has helped some. But I don't prescribe this way as I would like to be fairly sure that my remedy choice is correct.

I can't prescribe Rauwolfia to you simply because it worked for some.

That is not my way of homeopathic prescribing.

Hope you will find a competent homeopath soon.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Gavini

Here is what you stated on my post 'Nat Phos the Ultimate Cure for Obseity' in 2004, the day before Sri Lanka was afflicted by the Tsunami, the worst tragedy in our history when we lost over 50000 lives in a matter of a few hours.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/15923/

Re: The Ultimate Cure for ObesityFrom bandarbabu2000 on 2004-12-25

On Joe's advice I started taking Nat.Phos 6x,as advised,and I am glad to report that it seems working.

I started just a week back and I can already see improvement in terms of feeling of lightness,and improved agility.

I am now 112Kg and will report back on 1st Jan'05.

Murthy


I am copying below what you stated only yesterday but this time under another pseudonym 'Bapu4' on another old post dated January 30 2008 which you dug up by doing a search for High BP which you knew I would respond to and post my default Arnica therapy which has helped literally hundreds of patients throughout the world.

Do you spot any similarity between your first ID in 2004 'bandarbabu2000 on 2004-12-25' and your new specially coined ID 'Bapu4' ?

It simply amazes me to realize that you will stoop to a low level such as this to post under another new ID purely to have the satisfaction of getting what you thought was a valid reason to show how dangerous Arnica was for your alter ego 'Bapu4' after taking just ONE dose of Arnica 30 in the Wet dose. Do you notice that within the time frame of just under 24 hours Bapy4 stated:
'i started cervical pain with wet dose of 30 and i immly stopped it ithought why unnecessaryly damage your statics. '

I presume that you want me and those who will read this thread to believe this utterly impossible status that with just ONE DOSE of Arnica in the Wet dose, Bapu4 was affected by an imagined some Cervical pain !!!

If you wanted your Bapu4 to be believed, you should have replied to my post a few days into the future instead of jumping the gun and shooting yourself in the foot as you have obviously done today.

All I can state at this stage is that you absolutely DISGUST me. Your hatred against me and the jealousy that you project cannot be fathomed let alone equalled by anyone else except you yourself. You have advised me to seek psychiatric help and here again it is the classic Biblical case of pointing out the Mote in my eye when you cannot see the Beam in your own eye.

Mathew 7:5
'Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.'

It seems such a shame that your old sidekicks Nisha and Jacob Scott are no more present on this forum to join you as they did prior to 2006, in attacking me. Your trio were all birds of a feather motivated by jealousy against the Joepathy I was sharing with patients which worked in some wondrous miraculous manner to heal the ailments presented by patients on the ABC.

One remarkable fact that your trio held as a record what they all of you NEVER helped a patient and existed on the ABC purely to attack me.

I note that you referred in your reply to your 'CURES' of various imagined ailments and I would like to have their links to enable me to study them.

I will not be surprised at all if you invent yet another ID to support yourself in your filthy endeavour to discredit me with other fairy tales in the future and I shall deal with them in due course if you dare to do so.

I advise you to use another ID which cannot be traced back to you, the next time your devious mind impels you to cast any aspersions against me in the future.

I hold you in UTTER CONTEMPT.

In Utter Disgust

Joe De Livera


Re: High BP please help From bapu4 [Log on to view profile] on 2010-06-25
dr.girilal,i am following the case with interest i am also bp patient. pl.respond to zuzi.
regards

Re: High BP please help From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] on 2010-06-26
To Bapu

I believe that I was the first person who discovered the potential of Arnica to reduce Hypertension (Blood Pressure) about 15 years ago and I recorded my discovery on the ABC and other Homeopathic forums that I visited at that time.

I am now 81 years of age and my BP is
 
Joe De Livera last decade
mr.murthy,
my case history is there on abc forum you can go to the link i will answer any additional questions you want but since it will take a long time to search good homeopath and i see you seem to have good knowledge i request you to take me and cure me i will be greatful to you.
since i have little knowledge i by discussing with you will have better vision.i can not post the link since server is down you can see 24th june help for high bp initiated by bapu4
regards
 
bapu4 last decade
sorry it is 18th june and not 24th
 
bapu4 last decade
Hi Bapu

Joe's delusion has reached the peak. :-)

He thinks you are me.

Any way for the sake of clarity I give the link to your profile.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/previousposts.php?profile=Bapu4....

Let the visitors decide whether we two are the same.

I wish some one else too advises Joe to go to a psychriatrist as he is not understanding the seriousness of his problem.

Even a casual look at your profile and the style of writing tells any sane person that we are two different individuals.

Any way let us leave Joe to his delusion. I will go through your profile and see what I can do.

Give me some time.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
thanx.
 
bapu4 last decade

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