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Chronic and Severe Insomnia

Hello Everyone,

Following a trip to Switzerland, and aversions to allopathic medicines like Zopiclone and Ativan to name a few, I have been tried on several sleeping meds with no success. I am very sensitive to traditional medications and would love to find a homeopathic remedy for me.

I have now lost my job and have had to move in with my retired parents and I'm just waiting to sleep before I can start my life again. Sleep and the thought of sleeping has now produced a panic and depressed state and I feel very stuck. I tend to be very OCD with my sleeping to begin with- always have earplugs in, must be in a certain position, no one else in the bed and must empty my bladder before sleeping completely. I went to see a homeopath recently but I'm unable to afford her treatments much longer. I am very desperate.

It feels like everyone and everything is waiting for me to sleep. Any suggestions would be tremendously appreciated.
  mokey on 2014-11-10
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I can attempt to make some suggestions for you if you like. Click on my profile name to see more about me.

Working through a forum like this is a difficult medium for deep healing. It does take more work and patience on both sides.


General Guidelines:

1. Try to be as descriptive as possible. When describing pains or sensations use descriptions along the lines of ‘feels as if someone is squeezing it with their hand’ or ‘it is like an insect crawling around inside’ or ‘it is as if someone is standing over me threatening to kill me’. Long descriptions are always better than short ones. One word answers are difficult to use successfully.

2. Another important part of symptom description for homoeopathy are the ‘modalities’. These are situations, events, activities or conditions which modify the symptom in some way. We usually refer to this as what makes them ‘better’ or ‘worse’ (amelioration/aggravation). The situation may actually provoke the symptom into appearing, make it vanish altogether, or just increase or decrease it in some way. Modalities are vital information for prescribing.

Modalities are typically related to (but not exclusively) the following situations:

A. Temperature, weather
B. Time (day, night, specific times, frequency, periodicity, season)
C. Position, activity
D. Emotions, thoughts
E. Food and drink
F. Drugs, medication

3. How the symptom is perceived is important too – odour, appearance, sound, touch. What colour is it, what is its texture? For gestures, describe what it looks like the patient is doing, or what you feel you are doing while making the movement eg. ‘they look like they are swatting flies’ or ‘I feel like something is pushing my hand upwards’ or ‘it is like I stick a fork in an electrical outlet which throws my body backwards’. Description – it is key to accurate prescriptions.

4. When did the symptom or set of symptoms start? The apparent cause can be useful in determining the remedy, although it is not of the same importance as the previous factors. It may have been a specific event, a disease, an accident or even an emotional experience.

5. Use your own words. Do not copy phrases or descriptions found in our various remedy pictures. Try not to use other people’s ideas or thoughts or words. If you are reporting on behalf of someone else, report their exact words, however you can also report your own observations of them (not opinions).

6. Does the symptom occur alongside another specific symptom? Do particular symptoms only occur together? Does a particular symptom occur with a particular thought or emotion? For example, a headache that always comes with visual disturbances, or stomach pain that appears alongside anger, or anxiety that makes you feel like running down the street screaming.

7. Each complaint should be described fully before going on to describe another complaint. Try not to mix different symptoms or complaints together. Each modifying feature must be clearly attached to a particular symptom/set of symptoms. Any mistake you make here is a mistake the homoeopath will also then make.
Evocationer 7 years ago

(Please spend the most time on this section and give DETAILED answers - the homoeopathic remedy is very often decided on the basis of the mental and emotional state of the patient !)

1. What are the issues in your life that bother you the most. Not physical issues but mental or emotional ones. List each one separately and describe why each one bothers you so much.

2. What emotions are the most troublesome for you? What situations provoke these emotions. How do these emotions make you act? Do you feel any ill effects from expressing or not expressing these emotions.

3. What incidents in your life have had a deep impact on you? Describe each incident in detail and how they made you feel? What did you do in those situations? What effect have they had on your life?

4. What are you afraid of? Especially important are phobias, but it might be objects, situations or events that just produce a high level of anxiety. How do you manage your fears? How do you react when confronted with these fears? What would be the worst situation for you to be put in that would provoke these fears? You may need to talk about each fear/anxiety separately.

5. What hobbies do you have? Why do you like each of these activities?

6. Do you have any persistent thoughts, ideas or beliefs that are difficult to stop or cope with? What are they?

7. Do you have any unusual gestures or movements of the body? Do you feel any unusual sensation or pain throughout your body? What exactly does it feel like is happening in your body?

8. When you experience your fears, persistent thoughts, or difficult emotions, what kind of sensation or reactions do you get in your body?

9. When did you feel at your best in your life? What was that like for you? If you imagine the complete opposite of this feeling or moment, what would that be like?

10. Do you feel like you are stuck in a pattern of behavior, especially when trying to deal with your problems? What is this pattern? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION PLEASE CONSIDER CAREFULLY AND GIVE DETAILS.

11. What difficulties or problems do you have in relationships? Talk about your family, your romantic relationships, your spouse or partner, your friends, and your work colleagues. You may need to talk about all of these separately.

12. List 5 positive things about yourself. Are there any situations where this positive attribute becomes negative (is a problem)?

13. List 5 negative things about yourself. Are there any situations where this negative attribute becomes positive (is useful)?

14. Do you have any reoccurring dreams? Describe them in detail, including any feelings that come while dreaming. Dreams are very important in unlocking the deepest truth of a patient’s case, but it is not enough to simply describe them in a sentence. Give as much information as you feel comfortable doing.

15. Did you have any reoccurring dreams as a child, or earlier in your life? Describe those in detail including any feelings that came with them.

16. What were you like as a child, your character, your personality, your fears, your dreams, your problems?

17. What kind of environment did you grow up in? What problems where there at home, with your family, with your parents, with your siblings, with school?
Evocationer 7 years ago

(Symptoms that don’t fit anywhere else, but are things that tend to affect all of you as a person, but are not emotions or thoughts)

1. Sleep - what position do you tend to sleep in?
- what position can you not sleep in?
- do you do anything unusual in your sleep?
- any problems with going to sleep, staying asleep, or waking up?

2. Appetite - What foods do you crave/desire strongly?
- What foods do you hate eating (have an aversion to)?
- What foods have a negative effect on you or cause symptoms?
- What foods have a positive effect on you or seem to improve your health or symptoms in some way?

- What is the effect of hunger or fasting on you?

3. Thirst - What drinks do you crave/desire strongly?
- What drinks do you hate to take (are averse to)?
- When are you most thirsty?
- When are you least thirsty?

4. Stool - Do you have any problems with your bowels or passing stool?
- What is the shape, color, odor of the stool?

5. Urine - Do you have any trouble passing or retaining urine?
- What is the color, odor of the urine?
- Do you have any sediment or debris in the urine?

6. Sweat - How do you feel about the amount of perspiration you have?
- Where do you have the most sweat?
- What is the odor?
- What color does it stain clothing?
- Does anything in particular cause you to sweat abnormally?

7. Sexuality - Any problems with your sexual desire?
- Any problems with your sexual ability or function?
- Any history of sexually transmitted diseases?

8. Menses (Women)
- How many days is your cycle?
- How many days does the flow go for?
- What is the appearance of the flow?
- What is the odor of the flow?
- What kind of stain does the flow leave?
- Any discharge before, during or after?
- Any pain before, during or after the flow?
- What symptoms come before the flow?
- What symptoms come after the flow?

9. Environment – How does the weather affect you?
- How does the temperature affect you?
- How does the season affect you?
- What physical activities affect you?
- Is there anything else in t
Evocationer 7 years ago
Thank you for the reply.

1. Issues in life that bother me the most:
-insomnia- this bothers me so much because I put a lot of pressure on my entire life based on my ability or inability to sleep; I question how I will ever be able to accomplish things like be a mother or wife if I can't sleep just by myself
- frustration and immense pressure/impatience with myself for not being able to get myself out of this, a need to have a purpose in life again and get back to my old self- this feels like hot tingling needles up my shoulders and back coupled with a sinking sensation in my stomach and rapid heartbeat which pounds through my entire body, this is also coupled with a depression at the realization that I have gotten nowhere which feels like a tunnel or sand that I am trapped in, when I am in a depressed state I can't focus on conversations and feel like I am in a complete fog or dark grey cloud, not even aware of where I am or who I am -this bothers me because I like to feel independent and needed

-not being able to open up to family members in this time and on relying on them so much- at 15 my mother committed suicide and I had to live with relatives who are now at the age of retirement, growing up I didn't speak to anyone except my mom and she brought me a great amount of comfort when sleeping as well- I slept in her bed from the time I was a baby until her passing and afterwards one of my relatives had to stay with me in the bed as well- I have always been upset at myself for not being more open with them but speaking to relatives besides my mom used to bring me a lot of fear- I now feel like it's too late to start a good relationship with them when I need them most and think often about their deaths

-a fear and panic of starting over now that I have lost my job and haven't been myself for almost a month- this bothers me because I am afraid I won't get back to myself again, I have a preoccupation with age and time; always giving myself a timeline to do things like get married or have children and an age; also on the ages of other people and on their deaths recently

2.emotions that are the most troubling
-panic and fear - this is troubling when I let my thoughts and anxieties get away with themselves, this is particularly when I am alone or around night time/when I get myself ready for bed, usually if I don't express this I get angry and feel like I want to hit or punch something or else cry uncontrollably, thinking about my past life and future life provokes this as well
-depression- this is troubling when I feel like I am trapped, or reliving the same day over and over again because I have a sense of having lost myself, this happens when I am alone or not engaged in conversation - I find that I need constant reminders that I'll get through this but I am very stubborn and independent and inside my own head and worries a lot so I don't always listen and go right back to feeling depressed, if I don't express this I feel myself go into a dark cloud or a tunnel where nothing feels real anymore and I question what I like and dislike

3. Incidents
-My mom's death- She was my whole life until I was 15 and provided warmth, comfort and was basically my whole family, losing her made me feel very lost and scared to do things on my own and also caused me to push away from family members and isolate myself to make them think that I was okay
-moving out on my own and living a very independent life from my family- I would only call for small updates and would not show true emotion or personality- the only people who know my true personality are my friends- now relying on my family so much feels very foreign and uncomfortable and has made me feel a bit useless and like I'm moving back in life
-dating choices of both my mom and myself- my mom would choose partners who were a bad influence on her or were unsupportive and I would do the same and adapt my personality and interests to the person I was dating and had not found a good partner who actually cared about me- this made me feel desperate and unloved and I was so concerned with getting married and having children at a certain age that I would grieve failed relationships more than I should

4. What am I afraid of
-Heights- specifically when I can see the bottom of what is below me i.e. stairs that you can see through the back of or metal stairs that you can see through, glass floors on buildings
-disappointing people- I would always cry when I got in trouble from family members or at school, or I would always tell my family lies if I went out drinking in school so they would be proud of me
-speaking up for myself and explaining myself properly to people- I am a people pleaser and would prefer to not rock the boat, when confronted with these fears I usually have to leave the room to cry, I manage this by avoiding confrontation
-having conversations one-on-one with people- I judge the person and what their personality is before I begin speaking to them and prepare a mental note of what I will say to them before I speak
-getting older- a lot to do with the thoughts about time and age I have- I am always calculating at what age people should do things by to be considered normal or successful and use those to measure myself- thinking about getting older makes me think of the pressure I put on myself to accomplish things and I think of losing people and am afraid to see them get older
5. Hobbies
- yoga- good for strength, made me feel productive and active, made me feel like I was accomplishing something
-guitar- I like learning and teaching myself things and this is something I could do on my own- also sense of pride and accomplishment
-learning French- sense of self-improvement, love of language and culture

6. Persistent thoughts
-it is too late to reach out for help from my family- they are getting older and will die soon
-I will not get myself out of this- there will be no end
-I will not find my personality again
-I will be reliant on prescription medications for the rest of my life
-if I go on medications, I am just like my mom and cannot cope on my own
-I will never have the life I always pictured myself to have
-I am too old to start my life again

7. Body
-sudden drop feeling in the stomach
-nervous turning of the stomach when in thought or experiencing emotions
-awareness of my temples more- tingling sensation
-icy/hot needles through my shoulders and top of the back
-sporadic rheumatic attacks (I also have rheumatoid arthritis) in wrists, joints of pinky and ring fingers that move from hand to hand or to a different finger each day

8. see above

When I was living on my own, in my own condo with my pet cat and working only 25 hours a week. I was happy and had time to explore hobbies and interests while still feeling like I was worth something because I was working. I had a good social life as well and looked forward to going to work after the weekend or after holidays.

10. I feel very stuck. The pattern:
I need to fix my sleeping in order to fix my life.
Nothing is helping me to fall asleep.
I will never find anything to help me fall asleep.
If I do find something, I'll have to rebuild my life again.
That something might be medications which will always have to be adjusted so that I can cope. I have so many sensitivities to medications and they do terrible things to your body.
I will go back to where I am right now in my life and have to do this all over again.

11. Difficulties in relationships:
romantic relationships: always being the one to give too much to the relationship and putting pressure on the relationship for marriage; adapting my personality and interests to suit the partner
family: never fully expressing myself and being ashamed to be myself or wanting to always be perfect for them
current boyfriend: felt like I was settling and now have come to see how supportive he is

12. 5 positive things:
-I am very funny and quick-witted
-I am very creative and look for new ideas and opportunities
-I like to push myself and set challenges
-I am an independent person (also negative)
-I am very self-aware (also negative)

13. 5 negative things:
-I put an enormous amount of pressure on myself
-I am very impatient with myself
-I don't let a lot of people in and want them to think I'm okay
-I feel sorry for myself

14. No reoccurring dreams, but people things and places always feel familiar. I am only able to remember dreams if they happen right before I wake up. Recently had a dream about people from my high school dying. Dreams usually have a connection to something I looked at or did right before bed.

15. Dreamt of being chased by a big cartoon doll through a department store.

16. As a child:
-very shy around family- wouldn't speak
-goofy and silly around friends
-always wanted to please the teacher and get good grades
-problems with stomach and acid reflux/heartburn

17. very unstable home environment-
lived with single mom
mom got married and we had to move a lot
mom became very depressed and manic
I had to take care of my mom
Mom made terrible choices in men
Mom committed suicide
Moved in with family members I didn't really know
Never really opened up to family members to this day
mokey 7 years ago
General Symptoms:

-Sleep:Right side, with one hand under a pillow, holding a pillow with the other hand
-always have earplugs in my ears
-unable to sleep when not in my own bed
-unable to sleep if there is another person in the bed
-not sleep: stomach, left side
-problems going to sleep

Apetite: crave: sweets, protein and meats, dairy
hate eating: celery, raisins, spicy foods
food that causes symptoms: green & red peppers, spicy food, sausage
warm foods seem to improve health like hot chocolate or tea
-hunger is very strong and I have a large appetite

Thirst: chocolate milk, fruit juices
most thirsty in the morning
least thirsty towards evening and night

Stool: Generally no problems but lately loose because of lack of sleep/proper nutrition, now lighter brown and less dense

Urine: light yellow with some sediment

Sweat: normal amount but I generally sweat on my back or stomach, armpits stained yellow

Sexuality: fairly low sex drive

Menses: 3-4 days
2-3 days cycle
appearance heavy and dark red/brown for 2 days then spotting
strong foul odour
heavy discharge before and after
only slight cramping before and during the flow, otherwise ok

environment: sensitive to heat- don't enjoy sunbathing or hot tubs; get overheated
sensitive to cold weather as well- hands and feet always cold
enjoy outdoor activities and enjoy going outside
mild conditions with sun are preferred
exercise elevates mood like running or yoga
[message edited by mokey on Tue, 11 Nov 2014 01:18:24 GMT]
mokey 7 years ago
I should also mention that my panic and fear gets to be much worse in the evening as approaching time for bed or as soon as the sun goes down and I have to start thinking about sleep.

It's also terrible as I first 'wake up'. I pace back and forth and my chest feels tight and unable to take in a breath.

Modalities for sleep:

as a baby and child would often cry going to bed and didn't like to be alone, people had to drive me around in a car to put me to sleep

with my mom, things that helped me to sleep was being in the bed with her- I was in the bed with her until she died, rubbing my back helped and stroking my hair

after losing her at 15, things that helped were having someone in the bed and having a nightlight, or taking a gravol tablet

now things that help are the conditions I have set to fall asleep (earplugs, position, pillow under arm)
[message edited by mokey on Tue, 11 Nov 2014 02:21:18 GMT]
mokey 7 years ago
Alright, this looks like a well-given case. I will carefully examine this and see what I come up with.
Evocationer 7 years ago
Thank you very much. Any other info I can give you I will gladly offer.
mokey 7 years ago
I gave my work a 2 week medical sick note which expires next Monday and I need to make a decision about whether I can go back or not. Thinking about the pressure of my decision and how much my sleep will dictate my life gives me the panic, icy hot needles sensation with the stomach-drop sensation.

I'm trying to focus on whether the thoughts and worries in my head help me or hurt me but it's a bit overwhelming and I don't make any progress if I just keep turning off thoughts in my mind and don't move forward.

I'm so sorry to be impatient, but have you thought of any remedy to help?
mokey 7 years ago
I was going through my list of cases and found this one again untended. My apologies - seems like I have been answering a lot of queries recently.

This is now at the top of my list, and I will be working on this today.
Evocationer 7 years ago
Alright this is what I would like you to do.

I want you to obtain Nat-mur 1M, in liquid form (oral dosing liquid).

If you instead have pillules or pellets, you will need a small bottle and a dropper to make your own liquid dose. Mix water and alcohol into this small bottle to the ratio of 5:1. Dissolve 3 pillules/pellets into this bottle. All doses will be made from this bottle.

I want you to take a single dose only. Follow these instructions.

1. Hit the bottle 5 times firmly against the palm of the hand

2. Place 3 drops into 100mls of clean fresh water

3. Stir very thoroughly

4. Take 2 teaspoons out into the mouth and hold for 20 seconds, then swallow.

This is one dose and the same steps should be taken for any further doses, unless I ask you to change them in some way.

If any old symptoms reappear, or any current symptoms worsen, this is a GOOD sign in most cases. DO NOT SUPPRESS them with other kinds of medication unless you are in real danger (which is a highly unlikely reaction to a remedy).

However, if you are on regular medication it is also important that you do NOT stop taking this. Once it is determined the medicine has acted beneficially, we can look at reducing such medication if safe to do so.

Let me know how this has affected you after 1 week.
Evocationer 7 years ago

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