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dear mr./doc muruganrs
......aand how best can iodine be replenished/ absorbed by the body to negate the disorders?
what are the possible homeo med./ supplements?
how should they be administered?
and what could be an overdose?
 
vyushti last decade
vyushti!
I am not a homeopath, but a researcher interested in homeopathy. So, its better a qualified homeopath can answer your question on homeo medicine.

Well, i can give a genearl information on iodine deficiency.

ICCIDD, WHO, and UNICEF recommend the following daily amounts:
0-7 years-90 micrograms (mcg)
7-12 years-120 mcg
Above 12 years-150 mcg
Pregnant and lactating women-200 mcg.

The Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) for adults is 1,100 ìg/day (1.1 mg/day).

Selenium deficiency can exacerbate the effects of iodine deficiency. Iodine is essential for the synthesis of thyroid hormone, but selenium-dependent enzymes
(iodothyronine deiodinases) are also required for the conversion of thyroxine (T4)
to the biologically active thyroid hormone, triiodothyronine (T3).
Deficiencies of vitamin A or iron may also exacerbate the effects of iodine deficiency.

1 gram of iodised salt contains approximately 77 mcg of iodine. Dairy products especially milk contains 56 mcg per cup.
seafoods are rich in iodine content. one large boiled egg contains 29 mcg. Potato (with peel) is also rich in iodine (63 mcg/medium size)
Seaweed is really rich in iodine. If you can, add some seaweed with your food.
 
muruganrsa last decade
Dear mr. muruganrsa,
thanks a ton for this wonderful info....
i wud like to know more on this...any further links or reading?
thanks again
 
vyushti last decade
vyushti!

u r welcome.

There is an International Council for the Control of Iodine Deficiency Disorders (ICCIDD). U can visit the site at http://indorgs.virginia.edu/iccidd/
and click on 'other links'. U can find lot of web links.
 
muruganrsa last decade
Of-course iodine defficiency is the cause of Hypothyroid gland. But problme lies somewhere else, it is the gland that is unalbe to synthasise iodine from the food.

vyushti, your question got buried in the maze please restate your querries?
 
girilal last decade
Exactly dr. girilal,
and that is what needs to be reversed/ restored to actually cure the disorder......
to quote you 'Most homeopathy medicines are derived from poisons. Worse is the poison best is the remedy. Homeopathy medicines are reverse proved on the similum principal. If a material causes a certain damage, then highly diluted and potentized medicine made from that material would cure similar symptoms.

Mercury Corr. is Mercury Chloride, it effects all glands'

would this mean Mercury Corr. has the ability to reverse the thimerosal poisoning and the disorders it causes????
now finally regarding the med for my daughter to restore the thyroid gland function...as i have understood
1.Barayata Carbonica 30, dissolve it in a liter of mineral water bottle and shake it well. A tsp twice a day, just like any other homeopathy medicine.
2.Mercurius Corrosive 30 just once a day
3.Spongia Q.Five drops /day
4.China Q (5 drops once a day)
5. Thyroidinum 1000.....thyroidinum 1000..dosage and how often?
looking forward to your reply
thanks
 
vyushti last decade
dr girilal,
could u also comment on the following........
Sarsaparilla has long carried fame of being 'Blood purifier' . In homoeopathy its prooved to be antidote to cases which has been subjected to 'Heavy dosage of mercury". Since as per law of Homoeopathy Heavy dosage of any remedy , produces symptoms similar to the remedy, Hence it follows that heavy dosage of merc-sol/merc-cor, would produce symptoms similar to Mercury from where it follows that poisoning with direct mercury should also be antidoted by Sarsaprilla which antidotes heavy dosage by Merc-sol/Merc-cor.
 
vyushti last decade
would this mean Mercury Corr. has the ability to reverse the thimerosal poisoning and the disorders it causes????
Homeopathically same substance is not used in homeopathy doses to reverse its own effects but some other similar action substance is used that’s why it is called Similum.


now finally regarding the med for my daughter to restore the thyroid gland function...as i have understood
1.Barayata Carbonica 30, dissolve it in a liter of mineral water bottle and shake it well. A tsp twice a day, just like any other homeopathy medicine.
2.Mercurius Corrosive 30 just once a day
3.Spongia Q.Five drops /day
4.China Q (5 drops once a day)

5. Thyroidinum 1000.....thyroidinum 1000..dosage and how often?
Give her three doses 10 minutes apart and repeat it after each two weeks.


Sarsaparilla has long carried fame of being 'Blood purifier' . In homoeopathy its proved to be antidote to cases which has been subjected to 'Heavy dosage of mercury'. Since as per law of Homoeopathy Heavy dosage of any remedy, produces symptoms similar to the remedy, hence it follows that heavy dosage of merc-sol/merc-cor, would produce symptoms similar to Mercury from where it follows that poisoning with direct mercury should also be antidoted by Sarsaprilla which antidotes heavy dosage by Merc-sol/Merc-cor.

Antedating means it would assist in mercury removal from the body faster, it does not mean that it will cure mercury’s damaging effects. Sarsaparilla is a Ginseng family herb, root is used but in a herbal way. Most root beers are made with Sarsaparilla.
 
girilal last decade
thanks dr. girilal,
how does Thyroidinum 1000.....
three doses 10 minutes apart and repeat it after each two weeks....work/help???
does this mean there will be no other medication on that day?
what constitutes a dose of thyroidinum for my daughter one/two drops diluted in water or...???
' Homeopathically same substance is not used in homeopathy doses to reverse its own effects but some other similar action substance is used that’s why it is called Similum. '
is that the reason why mercury corr. is being used? reversing or not reversing does it activate the underactive gland and cure the damaging effects of thimerosal poisoning??
 
vyushti last decade
Sorry for the pop-up!

Its an complex issue and need to be understood thoroughly. Thats why i gave some information in this thread.

Thyroid glad don't produce or synthesize iodine. It is obtained from the water and the food we consume. It produces thyroid hormones Tetraiodothyronine (thyroxine or T4) and triiodothyronine (T3) and iodine is the essential component for the production of these hormones. These hormones are essential for life which have many effects on body metabolism, growth, and development.

Thyroid gland is itself influenced by hormones produced by the pituitary gland [produces thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH)]
and hypothalamus [produces thyrotropin releasing hormone (TRH)]. Hypothalamus, on detecting low levels of thyroid hormones in the blood release TRH stimulating the pituitary to release TSH.
Increased levels of TSH, in turn, stimulate the thyroid to produce more thyroid hormone. Thereby the balance is maintained. If iodine is not sufficient, the inducement of TRH to produce TSH continues. TSH would also induce the growth of thyroid cells.

So, all 3 glands should function normally and iodine forms the essential and basic part of the system.
 
muruganrsa last decade
by activating/restoring i meant facilitating iodine absorption, as that is the crux!, so that hormones could be produced normally....and yes this definitely is a complex issue...whether thimerosal or psychosomatic disturbances triggered it or something else is????
Now, how much of iodine, that one consumes is actually absorbed in the normal course?

your pop-ups are more than welcome! thank you so much for the info once again.
 
vyushti last decade
Dear mr. muruganrsa,
'Selenium deficiency can exacerbate the effects of iodine deficiency. Iodine is essential for the synthesis of thyroid hormone, but selenium-dependent enzymes
(iodothyronine deiodinases) are also required for the conversion of thyroxine (T4)
to the biologically active thyroid hormone, triiodothyronine (T3). '
sourcesof selenium besides sea weed?
is sea weed dried as beneficial as fresh?
 
vyushti last decade
Vyushti!

Iodine and Selenium are co-factors in thyroid metabolism.

Good sources of selenium include seafood, liver and kidney, meats.

Edible seaweed in fresh or dried form are good sources of iodine and selinium. Even the seaweed ash contains good iodine content. Seaweed is the only algae with high iodine content.

Just go through the website.
http://www.tuberose.com/Thyroid.html

'The thyroid gland is the principle user of iodine in the body. Two-thirds of the body's store of iodine is located in the thyroid gland. In a normal person, dietary iodine is absorbed from the gut into the blood and then, in the thyroid, it is removed from the blood, 'trapped' in the gland, and incorporated there into compounds, which in turn are assembled into thyroid hormone secretions. The average iodine intake of a normal adult on an ordinary diet in a non-goiter region is about 0.03 milligrams, a day. This tiny amount is only about one-seventh of what is needed for daily thyroid hormone production, but the body practices great economy and re-uses much of its iodine store repeatedly in producing hormone secretions. In goiter regions, not even the 0.03 milligram per day is available in the food and water'.

'Zinc, vitamin E and vitamin A function together in many body processes including the manufacture of thyroid hormone. In addition to iodine, a deficiency of any of these nutrients would result in lower levels of active thyroid hormone being produced. Low zinc levels are common in the elderly, as is hypothyroidism. The B vitamins riboflavin (B2), niacin (B3), and pydidoxine (B6), and vitamin C are also necessary for normal thyroid hormone manufacture. The trace minerals zinc, copper, and selenium are the required cofactors for iodothyroinine iodinase, the enzyme which converts T4 to the far more active T3. There are several different forms of this enzyme, each requiring a different trace mineral. Supplementation with zinc (the second most common mineral deficiency) has been shown to re-establish normal thyroid function in hypothyroid patients who were zinc-deficient, even though they had normal serum T4 levels. Dental mercury removal and heavy metal detoxification will restore many vitamin, mineral and trace
elements to normal levels as well'.
 
muruganrsa last decade
Dear Dr. girilal,
i would be highly obliged to hear from you on 'how does Thyroidinum 1000.....
three doses 10 minutes apart and repeat it after each two weeks....work/help???
does this mean there will be no other medication on that day?
what constitutes a dose of thyroidinum for my daughter one/two drops diluted in water or...???
' Homeopathically same substance is not used in homeopathy doses to reverse its own effects but some other similar action substance is used that’s why it is called Similum. '
is that the reason why mercury corr. is being used? reversing or not reversing does it activate the underactive gland and cure the damaging effects of thimerosal poisoning??'
thanks
 
vyushti last decade
dear muruganrsa,
thanks.
http://www.tuberose.com/Thyroid.html is a very informative site! what r the other vegetarian supplements/ sources of easily absorbable iodine/selenium?
 
vyushti last decade
Purpose of Thyroidinum is to stimulate the thyroid gland to function properly. It is better if there is no other medicine at that day.

Mercury Corr or all derivatives of Mercury damage mostly throat glands first that's why it is prescribed.

Similar and identical are two different approaches. Some people say using identical substance to cure identical illness is called Isopathy.
 
girilal last decade
thanks
dosage of thyroidinum???
 
vyushti last decade
dear dr. girilal
thanks
the dosage please.
 
vyushti last decade
3-4 globules or drops (if it is liquid) in a spoon of mineral/spring water. Drink it slowly so it touches whole mouth.
 
girilal last decade
Dear dr. Girilal,
greetings for the day!
as per your last mail.......

3-4 globules or drops (if it is liquid) in a spoon of mineral/spring water. Drink it slowly so it touches whole mouth....I have to give her three doses 10 minutes apart and repeat it after two weeks??????

how long do all these medications need to be taken?

'Mercury Corr or all derivatives of Mercury damage mostly throat glands first that's why it is prescribed.'..did i read correct..........damage throat glands first???? so would that mean flaring up of the disorder at this stage of growth?...i'm a trifle confused here...and wud like to understand the situation we will get into!!

final medication suggestions by you are:
1.Barayata Carbonica 30, dissolve it in a liter of mineral water bottle and shake it well. A tsp twice a day, just like any other homeopathy medicine.
2.Mercurius Corrosive 30 just once a day
3.Spongia Q.Five drops /day
4.China Q (5 drops once a day)
5. Thyroidinum 1000..3/4 drops in a spoon of water three times at 10 min interval repeated every two weeks. no other medications that day.
please confirm
Thanks
 
vyushti last decade
Dear dr. Girilal,
greetings for the day!
1.
3-4 globules or drops (if it is liquid) in a spoon of mineral/spring water. Drink it slowly so it touches whole mouth....I have to give her three doses 10 minutes apart and repeat it after two weeks??????
2.
how long do all these medications need to be taken?

3.
'Mercury Corr or all derivatives of Mercury damage mostly throat glands first that's why it is prescribed.'..did i read correct..........damage throat glands first???? so would that mean flaring up of the disorder at this stage of growth?...i'm a trifle confused here...and wud like to understand the situation we will get into!!

4.
do all wet doses need to be succussed...how many times??

5.
final medication suggestions by you are:
1.Barayata Carbonica 30, dissolve it in a liter of mineral water bottle and shake it well. A tsp twice a day, just like any other homeopathy medicine.
2.Mercurius Corrosive 30 just once a day
3.Spongia Q.Five drops /day
4.China Q (5 drops once a day)
5. Thyroidinum 1000..3/4 drops in a spoon of water three times at 10 min interval repeated every two weeks. no other medications that day.
please confirm
Thanks
 
vyushti last decade
hi
sorry for the repeated post!!! resent by mistake!
 
vyushti last decade
awaiting reply!
 
vyushti last decade
You got it all right, now start the treatment.
 
girilal last decade
sure thing dr. girilal, started with thyroidinum...thanks so much!
but also please clarify....
'Mercury Corr or all derivatives of Mercury damage mostly throat glands first that's why it is prescribed.'..did i read correct..........damage throat glands first???? so would that mean flaring up of the disorder at this stage of growth?...i'm a trifle confused here...and wud like to understand the situation we will get into!!
Thanks again!
 
vyushti last decade
Mercury would reverse the damage in neck glands (theoritically)
 
girilal last decade

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