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Since the attack continues on my use of Arnica I am copying below the thread on 'Arnica the Miracle Remedy' on

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/42450/




Arnica the Miracle Remedy - Brief case histories

From Joe De Livera on 2005-11-08
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I would like to note below brief case histories which I have recorded in the use of Arnica for various ailments.

It will be noted that some of the ailments that were successfully cured are not listed in the Repertories and the Materia Medicas now in use, and it is hoped that they are considered for listing in future editions, after more tests are carried out by those who can count on the facilities to carry out these tests.

WOUNDS 30c
Arnica 30c is the classical remedy to help cure wounds.

GENERAL TONIC IN DAILY USE 30c
I have used Arnica 30c which I discovered was better than the 6c for the last 10 years every night or more often in the case of need like after surgery. I believe that I owe to it my sense of wellness. I do not have any ache or pain in my body and I have proved that it is to Arnica that I owe my BP 120/80 with pulse 65 at age 76. I invite others to use it and to record their response to this remedy.

SUBSTITUTE FOR MORPHINE POST major SURGERY 200c and 30c
I have used this myself after my Retropubic Prostatectomy and can confidently recommend it for use after any major surgery. When I regained consciousness I noticed the Morphine syringe attached to the IV line and promptly ordered it removed to the consternation of the nursing staff and the surgeon, who warned me that I could even suffer from a major shock due to the pain without the morphine. I stated that I will use my Arnica alone to control the pain and they were very surprised to note that I was relatively free of pain after a few hours. I was able to leave my bed on the third day without any pain medication except for the Arnica I used every 2 hours at first and every 3 hours later. I was discharged on the 5th day and walked to my car. They were all amazed at my extremely quick recovery at 73 years.

EASES URINE FLOW CAUSED BY BPH 30c Wet Dose
I used Sabal S 6c and Conium 30c when I discovered that I was allergic to Hytrin that was prescribed for my BPH (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia). I had a slight wound for which I used Arnica 30c and discovered that it was far superior to the other remedies I used for BPH and I stayed with it from 1996 up to my surgery in 2003 and used it after on a regular nightly basis.

HELPS TO CONTROL INCONTINENCE AFTER TURP 30c
It amazes me how this remedy that I have given over 20 patients who were suffering from the after effects of the TURP (trans urethral resection of the prostate) surgery who were incontinent due to some misadventure on the part of the Uro who had obviously damaged the sphincter muscle in the neck of the bladder. Arnica gave more time between visits to the toilet and in many cases it stabilized the incontinence in a few months. Others use it on a twice daily basis. Always in the water dose.

JET LAG 30c
I have used it for many years on every overseas trip. Dosage is 1 teaspoonful taken 3 times on the day before departure. Dry doses to be taken every 3 hours on board and 3 times on the day after arrival.

LACK OF MOTOR FUNCTION OF EXTREMITIES IN 82 YEAR OLD 1M Wet Dose
The patient gradually lost motor control of his hands and feet for about a year and was confined to either his bed or a chair where he was placed by his children. Drugs that were prescribed were not effective. This case was referred to me and my response was an act of faith on my part in giving him Arnica 1M which I gave him in the water dose. He was completely cured in 2 months. The dosage used was 1 teaspoonful (capful) twice daily. He is now quite mobile and does not use the remedy any more.

MENTAL DEGENERATION IN THE AGED 1M
I used Arnica 1M dose 1 tsp daily in the case of a 75 year old who was showing signs of Alzheimer's and he showed perceptible improvement in 2 weeks which was continued thereafter. He is now permanently on the Arnica. Dose 1 tsp daily.

CHRONIC ACHES AND PAINS 30c
I have used it very often when the patient complains of general body pain (not arthritic). It is also useful for chronic back pain due to previous injuries. Sciatica is also helped by a twice daily dose.

INSOMNIA 30c
Almost everyone who has taken 1 teaspoonful of this remedy in the water dose prior to sleep has noticed the deep unbroken sleep that they experienced during the night. They wake up quite refreshed with a zing in their steps.

ECZEMA 6c
I have used it in over 30 cases some of which were chronic for over 10 years and within a week, the patient is usually cured. The success rate is better that 80%. I recommend that the remedy is continued but those who did not do so after about 3 months do not use it anymore and can be considered permanently cured. The skin condition after this time resembles Vitiligo especially in the chronic cases which had eroded the melanin in the skin which does not regenerate but there is no discomfort or itchiness.

CELLULITIS 30c
I first used this remedy for a 78 year old lady who was suffering from recurrent reinfection of her legs. She had been to hospital every 6 months on 3 occasions for about a week each time where she was treated with the most powerful antibiotics which left her drained out like a rag. When she came out on the last occasion I gave her Arnica 30c in the water dose and she takes 1 teaspoonful before sleep. She was also an insomniac and now enjoys deep sleep and for the last 2 years she has not suffered from any reinfection from her Cellulitis. I have also used it for 3 other patients also in the same age group who had been hospitalized at least twice before in each case and they do not have any reinfection after many months or years. The Arnica seems to help by increasing the blood flow in the capillaries under the skin which in turn prevents reinfection. They have however to be on one dose of Arnica permanently.

PROMOTES GROWTH OF HAIR 30c
I would refer to the many posts on the ABC forum where I have been advocating the use of Arnica 6c for hair growth. The success rate has been better than 80%. I use Weisbaden 200c for the stubborn cases which is taken every other day.

ANGINA 200c
Many who were using Nitroglycerine on a SOS basis have been helped by the Arnica 200c which was used also on a SOS basis. For daily use as a prophylactic the patient uses Arnica 30c twice daily and is not affected by the angina any more. It is however important that the patient has his condition checked regularly.

CHRONIC HEADACHE 30c
I used Arnica in many cases that were not reacting to Bryonia 30 which is my default remedy for headaches and it worked well.

INTERNAL HAEMORRHAGE IN A HAEMOPHILIAC 30c
I am treating a boy who is now 6 years for the last 3 years who is a Haemophiliac with Arnica 30c for internal bleeding when he suffers from any fall or bump which causes a swelling and pain usually on his joints. The Arnica helps to dissipate the blood and reduces the swelling. I use Lachesis 200c for open cuts which bleed profusely and this arrests the bleeding in about 15 minutes. Prior to this therapy the boy had to be rushed to hospital for a drip with every fall or cut.

PIMPLES, ACNE, BLEPHARITIS, ROSACEA, STYES 30c
Hundreds of teenagers have benefited by the use of Arnica 30c. I can vouch personally for its efficacy to control styes which I used to get weekly with painful results.

BED SORES 30c
Prevents their formation.

NOSE BLEED 200c
The ultimate remedy.

RHEUMATISM AND GOUT 30c
I believe that it helps to dissipate the swelling of the synovial fluid which causes pain. I treat the Arthritis with Rhus Tox 1M and Hypericum 200c to alleviate the pain both taken in the water dose.

ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION 6c
I have many patients who have certified that it works like a charm !

TONSILLITIS 30c
Helps to alleviate the swelling and pain. This remedy is only effective as soon as the tonsils show signs of discomfort. Chronic cases have to be treated with an antibiotic. This remedy controls the formation of Tonsiloliths but it has to be taken on a daily basis to be effective in this control.

DIABETES 30c
I consider that this is easily my most important discovery which I made quite accidentally a year ago when I gave Arnica 30c to a MD who was a Type I Diabetic to help cure a chronic non healing wound. He informed me on the day after he took 2 doses that his Blood Sugar had dropped drastically and refused to use it anymore as he felt that it was some mysterious medicine which he did not wish to experiment with as he was already on Insulin which he injected himself 4 times daily. I then gave this remedy to two Type II Diabetics and discovered that they had the same reaction when their BS dropped considerably similar to the drop caused by Metformin. I then prescribed 1/4 teaspoonful Cinnamon powder to be used twice daily and have 2 patients who are able to control their ailment without recourse to the standard drugs used for the control of Diabetes.

I shall be glad to reply any questions that those who read this article may like to pose if any clarification is required on any matter pertaining to my use of Arnica listed above

Plese read this.

Important

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It is not to be treated as a medical diagnosis or prescription, and should not be used as a substitute for a consultation with a qualified homeopath or physician.

It is possible that advice given here may be dangerous, and you should make your own checks that it is safe.

For example, taking mother tinctures can lead to serious side effects, and stopping prescribed medication without first consulting a physician can also endanger your health. If symptoms persist, seek professional medical attention. Bear in mind that even minor symptoms can be a sign of a more serious underlying condition, and a timely diagnosis by your doctor could save your life.

Also read this.

Article on pseudo homeopathy

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/86171/

Murthy

Murthy

Come on Murthy, leave the motives behind.

Please excuse me, I know this will seem like I'm attacking Joe again, but whatI am attacking is this presumption that threads posted by that same gentleman are quoted ad nauseum therafter on other threads as if in validation of his stand. Please explain how quoting yourself PROVES your views.
And, once again, you seem to see criticizm of your practices as an attack on your person, which is not the case. You may be a very wonderful person, but that does not mean everything you say is gospel. Similarly, if what you do is perceivably wrong and therefore pointed out, it is not to impinge on your character.

The same repeated quoting is nothing but a sick trick, for which the self-glorifyer has ample of time besides maintaining his age STATIC BP of 120/80 with Pulse of 65

It is done to mask or drown the earlier posting with a huge lengthy post, so as to confuse the next reader, who typically read the last post. If you notice, he will post a huge nuisance lengthy post immediately after my post and also of anybody who opposes him.

Persons suffering from A.D.D., have this self-glorifying mono-babbling attitude. AND he is supported immediately on the next post by the back-stabber sadistic pervert, whom I have caught using dozens of multiple proxy login i.d.s.

And Joe, my asistant brought this to my knowledge- nobody is denying that Arnica is a great remedy and can do so many things. SO IS EACH POLYCHRESTIC homeopathic medicine. If I decide tomorrow to start singing paeens to, say, Nux Vomica and how it can cure everything from diarrhoea to constipation to eczema to GERD to sleeplessness, it does not mean that that medicine would work on everyone or should be prescribed to everyone.

NOW, the above requires classical training in a appropriate homeopathic college / institute.

However, some bookish self-styled-homeopaths, feel that they have invented the next generation of Homeopathy and to justify their own theories, will monotonously self-glorify, endlessly. Some people will profess the need to change with present times and challenge the old school. AS IF, the anatomy functioning / symptomology of the human brain and mind changes.

DOES it change ? IF so, Let's discuss or justify.

The Homeopathic CAUSATIVE factor should be found out before recklessly prescribing Arnica for ANY & ALL diseases. OTHERWISE, it is just placiebo'cally only a palliative (only temporary relief leading & cumulating to more powerful & dangerous symptoms later on, in the long term).

BE CAUTIOUS : Read this links throughly before attempting self-medicating.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/homeopathicmedicine.htm
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/86602/

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
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In my opinion...when Joe suggests the use of Arnica in low potency on a daily basis:

It is the diluted extract of the Arnica Herb that is working like a herbal medicine and giving benefits to the user.

Polycrests cover a wide range of symptoms.

If it benefits the user, where is the problem. Such a diluted dose is not going to cause the provings...about which a follower of Classical Homeopathy is making out to be.

I think the proverb ...'a very big issue is being made out of a small tissue' ....applies here.

Pankaj Varma

As Ripas has pointed out even nux vomica is a polychrest and why it can't cure all the problems on this earth?

It is not a question of small verses big issue.

It is a question about homeopathic philosophy.

Murthy

And this is what Dr.Mehmood said:

'Problem appears when we try to dis-approve a medicine versus a fundamental and made a declaration.

This is exactly happened with Mr. Joe's system of treatment. I am a trained homeoapth but also I am well aware that beside homeopathy many other systems can help the mankind.'

So Murthy ......guys like you making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Pankaj Varma

Who is Dr.Mehmood?

Murthy

Hope the 'Joepathy' cult group, realises that :

- 'diluted' arnica is not the same as potencised Arnica
- 'potencised' arnica is not the same as diluted Arnica HERB.

Question :
Was 'joe' all along suggesting the diltuted version of the Arnica HERB
.OR.
Was 'joe' all along suggesting the diluted version of the Arnica ''HOMEOPATHIC' potency (6c OR 30c)

The 'joepathy' cult group is requested to atleast look up the dictionary to understand the meaning of 'Potency' and 'diluted'.

The Arnica was giving benefit to the many aliases (false multiple login i.d.'s), which have now dried up and the true negative responses have started surfacing up. IS THE TRUTH TRIUMPHING.

WHY PREJUDICE YOURSELF FOR A NUISANCE CULT.
WHY PREACH SOMETHING ELSE AND PRACTISE SOMETHING.
in the guise of renovating a new-type of Homeopathy.

IT IS VERY VERY FALSE to say that all along 'joe' was suggesting the diluted HERB of Arnica and not the HOMEOPATHIC version of Arnica-6c & Arnica-30c. AS A UNIVERSAL CURE FOR ANY & ALL DISEASES.
It is a big lie (big issue) out of nothing (small issue)
Remember, the almighty God is watching.
Dr. Hanneman is squirming inside his grave. Let him be in peace.


CONSIDER THIS once again. (by Winston Churchill) :
'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on'

Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
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Counter-argument:

Who is Murthy.

Nesha...you mean 'potency' is not made through 'dilution' ??

Pankaj,

Counter-Question :

So you say that potency is made 'through' dilution.

That would be surprising !

Ask a chemist for the answer ....and you will know !!

Re: Sulphuric Acid tip for alcoholism From dr mehmood on 2006-11-06
There is no need to throw away any fundamental.

Problem appears when we try to dis-approve a medicine versus a fundamental and made a declaration.

This is exactly happened with Mr. Joe's system of treatment. I am a trained homeoapth but also I am well aware that beside homeopathy many other systems can help the mankind.

Very very unfortunate situation.

The more these people talk, the more they display their ignorance about homeopathy.

Dilution alone will not make a potency. It is a combination of dilution and succussion.

To release the energy, the succussion part of the process is very important.

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Now,you know who is Murthy.

Murthy

Now, you know who is Murthy.

We also call 'Buth' in Hindi.

Actually in Hindi, Urdu, Arabic, Punjabi and Persian too -- 'Buth'

Statue in English.

I have been reading the many post that were made in the past day or two on this thread and cannot understand the reason for the consternation that the therapy I have used for many patients has caused, which resulted in the many attacks that have been made by various people against me, simply because I have shared my discoveries with members, both prescribers and patients on this forum, who may find some use for them.

The mere fact that I do not subscribe to the classical formula does not mean that my use of existing Homeopathic remedies is wrong. Murthy has of course gone out of his way to warn members with his default 'Doom and Gloom' formula but as far as I know the members have not risen to his bait to stop the therapy that they have used which I prescribed and change over to his classical formula which he is yet to specify. I note that this response from those who have benefitted from the use of my therapy has sent him into paroxysms of anger but he seems to have cooled down now and I hope his status will stabilize and improve in the future, but I know that he will wait for the appropriate moment when he can pounce on the unsuspecting patient if there is the slightest chance of any remedy that I prescribed being the cause of some other ailment. I refer to the case where Silicea used for a Fistula seemed to have caused a breast lump.

It is strange that many members who have graced this thread seem only to be determined to show up the danger of using my Joepathy, but do not at least appreciate the fact that in the majority of cases, my therapy has worked wonderfully well. I realize that at least one female member will classify this statement as 'self glorification' but facts are stubborn and it is just this sense of determination on my part to forge ahead to establish a different viewpoint in the use of Homeopathic remedies, that impels me at my advanced age of 77 years to withstand all these attacks and to share with others, the benefits that can result from the use of remedies I prescribe which has been classified as Joepathy by many members. It must be remembered that this term Joepathy was first used derisively but it seems to have stuck and many now use it with, I hope, some reverence as it may be the beginning of a revolution in the use of remedies in a non classical manner that will help suffering humanity. I must admit that I fail to understand the reason why my therapy which has been proved to be effective in a manner that the classical method has not helped in the case of some ailments like Fistula which I have been treating with a combination therapy including an Antibiotic ointment which is directly inserted inside, can be classified as dangerous and can lead to future manifestations of doom. The patient is the final arbiter of the efficacy of my therapy and if he is helped, I cannot understand the reason for this consternation on the part of a few members to shadow every one of my posts with the avowed intention of only creating that doubt in the mind of the patient at least one of whom left the forum and surrendered himself to his surgeon for yet another surgical adventure for his Fistula.

It simply amazes me to read the language that the female pseudo classical homeopath has use to describe my efforts to help patients but she must realize that the more she vents her anger and waspish language on me, the more she succeeds in increasing the interest of patients to my Joepathy. She should realize that all her efforts are counter productive and she only succeeds in making a bad situation (for her) even worse as she insists on displaying her scant knowledge of spelling in the English language where almost every one of her posts are replete with bloomers like PLACEIBO meaning Placebo, all of which when coupled to her Indian interpretation of the English language which is used universally, provide entertainment to people like me whose mother tongue is English which is a language that I have specialized in for as long as I can remember.

I notice that she has in the recent past started to criticize me for my somewhat lengthy posts and I presume that this may be due to some problem associated with ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) which she often attributes to me by some quirk of her imagaination. Her own admission about her inabliltiy ot read my what she classifies as 'lengthy' posts prove that she herself suffers from ADD or even ADHD and this perhaps impairs her power of concentration after some time to read my posts in rebuttal of her own insulting posts where she descends to the level that prompted me to retaliate with the quotation from Cyrus Ching about the pig. She often refers to my age which I presume she now accepts at 77 and my static BP which she knows by memory of

sigh....

murthy

Yes Murthy...with today's ability of scientific analysis ...one can find substances in liquids upto PPM or PPB levels. (Parts per million or parts per billion).

At Hahnemann's time these testing techniques were not available.

Pollutants in rivers, lakes, swimming pools are measured in PPM or PPB terms...and Pollution Control Boards around the world declare regulations about permissible PPM or PPB levels of substances/metals/alloys/elements in the water.

If you give a bottle of a homeopathic potency to a chemist / microbiologist who does this kind of work...he / she will analyse and give you the PPM or PPB result of that bottle of homeopathic medicine. (Say... Phosphorus or Selenium or Zincum Metal etc).

To him it is just a dilution.

You talk of energies in homeopathic medicines...has anybody found means to measure it?????

Yes the books are speaking about it...we all know it.

Without measure...it is a mere conjecture.

(Because of these things I am careful in quoting from the material given in homeopathic books).

Today's scientific world wants a lot many proofs of what people say about homeopathy and how homeopathy works.

Pankaj Varma

Dear Rajiv,
So you are confirming what I am saying ..... that atleast the lower potencies can be rated as ppm and ppb dilutions.

About higher ...we will talk in good time.

Thanks,
Pankaj Varma