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Dear Pankaj,
That 'good time' when we will be able to talk as scientifically as you wish about the higher dilutions would indeed be a good time.But i fear that, that 'good time' is a 'good deal' away.
Rajiv
That 'good time' when we will be able to talk as scientifically as you wish about the higher dilutions would indeed be a good time.But i fear that, that 'good time' is a 'good deal' away.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
Hi Rajiv
It clearly shows their level of understanding of homeopathy.
Gradually every thing is coming out.
They just know about some medicines, and some of their uses.They also know that 200c is more potent than 30c.
Nothing beyond that.
The rest of their prescritions are based on pure allopathic thinking.
They don't know, how homeopathic medicines are made.
They don't the importance of succussion.They feel increasing the potency is achieved by increasing the dilution.
They don't know,at what potency,not even a single molecule of the medicine is present.
They don't know,how energy medicines work.They don't know anything about the philosophy of homeopathy.
They never heard the names of masters that are always on our lips, and talk disparagingly about them, despite not knowing about them.
They don't know,what is really an aggravation,and how to control it when needed to.
They don't know, when to stop the medicine and when to repeat it.
They don't know anything about suppression.
And they pose as if they are the most succesful prescribers on this earth.
And worst of all, they try to get up after being thoroughly mauled, and try to declare themselves as winners.!!
May the unfortunate patients ,who listen to them be saved.!!!
Murthy
It clearly shows their level of understanding of homeopathy.
Gradually every thing is coming out.
They just know about some medicines, and some of their uses.They also know that 200c is more potent than 30c.
Nothing beyond that.
The rest of their prescritions are based on pure allopathic thinking.
They don't know, how homeopathic medicines are made.
They don't the importance of succussion.They feel increasing the potency is achieved by increasing the dilution.
They don't know,at what potency,not even a single molecule of the medicine is present.
They don't know,how energy medicines work.They don't know anything about the philosophy of homeopathy.
They never heard the names of masters that are always on our lips, and talk disparagingly about them, despite not knowing about them.
They don't know,what is really an aggravation,and how to control it when needed to.
They don't know, when to stop the medicine and when to repeat it.
They don't know anything about suppression.
And they pose as if they are the most succesful prescribers on this earth.
And worst of all, they try to get up after being thoroughly mauled, and try to declare themselves as winners.!!
May the unfortunate patients ,who listen to them be saved.!!!
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Manufacturing defect !!! Cannot return product to the store / manufacturer. Unfortunately...no 'warranty'came with the product.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
My dear Pankaj,
All this is turning out to be a big joke.There is no chemist on this earth who can detect a trace of matter in a 10M or a 50M or a CM potency.Not as of now at least.Not in the next few decades.The more you insist on it the more sympathy i feel for you.
If you say that it would have been nice to see a scientific breakthrough which could really explain why or how the high potency remedies work, then i could understand and would have supported you.But when you say that people can measure matter in the high and highest potencies with the current level of science and technology, then your comments look 'funny' to say the least.
Rajiv
All this is turning out to be a big joke.There is no chemist on this earth who can detect a trace of matter in a 10M or a 50M or a CM potency.Not as of now at least.Not in the next few decades.The more you insist on it the more sympathy i feel for you.
If you say that it would have been nice to see a scientific breakthrough which could really explain why or how the high potency remedies work, then i could understand and would have supported you.But when you say that people can measure matter in the high and highest potencies with the current level of science and technology, then your comments look 'funny' to say the least.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
Hi Rajiv
It is astonishing that these people don't know ABCD of homeopathy,and are able to deceive the unfortunate patients here, posing as homeopaths.
The more these people talk, the more they expose their hollowness.
Allow them to talk here, rather than through e mail, and let everybody know, where they stand.
Murthy
It is astonishing that these people don't know ABCD of homeopathy,and are able to deceive the unfortunate patients here, posing as homeopaths.
The more these people talk, the more they expose their hollowness.
Allow them to talk here, rather than through e mail, and let everybody know, where they stand.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Regarding the issue of Dilution and Potencisation,
JUST MAYBE, IT HAS AN ANSWER IN 'joepathy', if not in any other pathy or sciences.
Seems 'rajivprasad' is not among the Arnica Cult Group.
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Answering the Self-Glorifyer, who Intead of answering my questions,
AS usual ALWAYS - a never-ending monotonous & boring mumble reeked of self-glorification & chronic frustration. ATleast there is time available for writing such a long boring and monotonous post.
TOO TOXIC ...
ATLEAST, start writing a book. Maybe that'll sell.
- if not in English, then atleast in Sinhalese.
- if cost not recoverable, distribute it free on 19th October.
- if not otherwise, ATLEAST AS A 'SOUVENIR'
THOUGH, BE CAREFUL OF TERMITE's.
CONSIDER THIS once again (by Winston Churchill) :
'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on'
CONSIDER THIS TOO :
'A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no responsibility at the other'.
(if the above quote is beyond understanding, ask me (who else but 'only' Nesha-India) to explain).
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
JUST MAYBE, IT HAS AN ANSWER IN 'joepathy', if not in any other pathy or sciences.
Seems 'rajivprasad' is not among the Arnica Cult Group.
-----------------------
Answering the Self-Glorifyer, who Intead of answering my questions,
AS usual ALWAYS - a never-ending monotonous & boring mumble reeked of self-glorification & chronic frustration. ATleast there is time available for writing such a long boring and monotonous post.
TOO TOXIC ...
ATLEAST, start writing a book. Maybe that'll sell.
- if not in English, then atleast in Sinhalese.
- if cost not recoverable, distribute it free on 19th October.
- if not otherwise, ATLEAST AS A 'SOUVENIR'
THOUGH, BE CAREFUL OF TERMITE's.
CONSIDER THIS once again (by Winston Churchill) :
'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on'
CONSIDER THIS TOO :
'A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no responsibility at the other'.
(if the above quote is beyond understanding, ask me (who else but 'only' Nesha-India) to explain).
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India last decade
Rajiv,
You have to be a qualified lab technologist to say that...and for others to accept what you are saying.
Pankaj Varma
You have to be a qualified lab technologist to say that...and for others to accept what you are saying.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj,
I have to be a qualified lab technologist to say what.That at the level of 12C, we have crossed the Aoogadro's Number.At the level of 13C and above, you are dealing with something that 'science' has not been willing to accept.That is the reason they have refused to believe that such non-material things as so called homeopathic remedies could have any effect on human body.So, any cures or effects which patients feel must be a 'placebo' effect.All this is easily available to anyone who wants to do a little research.
The concept of Avogadro's number is understood by a class 12th Science student.Now, we are not even talking of 12C or 13C.We are talking of 10M. A dilution which is of the order of 1 drop of the remedy in 100 raised to the power of 10,000 drops of alcohol.The part per billion has been breached at the 5C itself.The English language does not have an 'official' word to express the 20C because they have never tried such a dilution.Because for them such a dilution is meaningless.So, forget the 10M.
Why i need to be a lab technologist to understand this simple thing that matter as we (Science) understand it, does not exist at the level of 10M or 50M or 100M?All of Science has debunked homeopathy for this very reason.That these so called remedies have no trace of matter in them.It is a known fact in scientific literature.You are revealing a tremendous amount of ignorance to even carry on discussing all this without at least doing some reading on what the 'official science' has to say about homeopathy and its remedies.
Just do a bit of googling and you can find a lot of information.Read about Benveniste and his experiments and the criticism that he received and come back for further discussions if you still wish.
All the best.
Rajiv
I have to be a qualified lab technologist to say what.That at the level of 12C, we have crossed the Aoogadro's Number.At the level of 13C and above, you are dealing with something that 'science' has not been willing to accept.That is the reason they have refused to believe that such non-material things as so called homeopathic remedies could have any effect on human body.So, any cures or effects which patients feel must be a 'placebo' effect.All this is easily available to anyone who wants to do a little research.
The concept of Avogadro's number is understood by a class 12th Science student.Now, we are not even talking of 12C or 13C.We are talking of 10M. A dilution which is of the order of 1 drop of the remedy in 100 raised to the power of 10,000 drops of alcohol.The part per billion has been breached at the 5C itself.The English language does not have an 'official' word to express the 20C because they have never tried such a dilution.Because for them such a dilution is meaningless.So, forget the 10M.
Why i need to be a lab technologist to understand this simple thing that matter as we (Science) understand it, does not exist at the level of 10M or 50M or 100M?All of Science has debunked homeopathy for this very reason.That these so called remedies have no trace of matter in them.It is a known fact in scientific literature.You are revealing a tremendous amount of ignorance to even carry on discussing all this without at least doing some reading on what the 'official science' has to say about homeopathy and its remedies.
Just do a bit of googling and you can find a lot of information.Read about Benveniste and his experiments and the criticism that he received and come back for further discussions if you still wish.
All the best.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
Hi Rajiv
By now, you must have realised the level of understanding of these 'resident presribers' here.
And they have the cheek to say, we are dogmatic.!!
The more they try to win the argument, the more they are showing their ignorance.
They will not agree that they need to study more.
They will try to defend the undefendable, however absurd their argument may look to even slightly knoweldgable people.
Once they know,that they are exposed, and that there is no way for retreat,they start pouring in personal invectives.
I have been too familiar with this cycle.
Now, it is your turn.
Murthy
By now, you must have realised the level of understanding of these 'resident presribers' here.
And they have the cheek to say, we are dogmatic.!!
The more they try to win the argument, the more they are showing their ignorance.
They will not agree that they need to study more.
They will try to defend the undefendable, however absurd their argument may look to even slightly knoweldgable people.
Once they know,that they are exposed, and that there is no way for retreat,they start pouring in personal invectives.
I have been too familiar with this cycle.
Now, it is your turn.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Rajiv,
I am ignoring the personal comments you have made (may be you were under some stress to do so).
However, I must say I am really impressd with the calculations that you have given.
If I had not seen the working of high potency homeopathic meds, after reading your excelelnt analysis...even I might have concluded that it is palcebo effect. Anyway, I have seen the impact of high potency meds on patients. So I don't say so.
This leads us to the logic that manufacturers who make high potency homeopathic meds ...by their action...generate an energy in the medicine.
If it is energy ...there has to be a form of the energy. It can be electrical energy, mechanical energy, sound energy, light energy, magnetic energy, nuclear energy etc ,etc, etc.
Can you enlighten me...after googling or otherwise...what is your conclusion >>>> which form of energy gets generated in high potency homeopathic meds ????
Thank you in advance,
Pankaj Varma
I am ignoring the personal comments you have made (may be you were under some stress to do so).
However, I must say I am really impressd with the calculations that you have given.
If I had not seen the working of high potency homeopathic meds, after reading your excelelnt analysis...even I might have concluded that it is palcebo effect. Anyway, I have seen the impact of high potency meds on patients. So I don't say so.
This leads us to the logic that manufacturers who make high potency homeopathic meds ...by their action...generate an energy in the medicine.
If it is energy ...there has to be a form of the energy. It can be electrical energy, mechanical energy, sound energy, light energy, magnetic energy, nuclear energy etc ,etc, etc.
Can you enlighten me...after googling or otherwise...what is your conclusion >>>> which form of energy gets generated in high potency homeopathic meds ????
Thank you in advance,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
It is a dynamic energy.
You know only a few forms of energy. There are many others, which you are not aware of.
Murthy
You know only a few forms of energy. There are many others, which you are not aware of.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Just google 'homeopathy dynamic energy' and read the hundred of references yourself.
Come back, if you have not understood any thing.
We will help you.
Murthy
Come back, if you have not understood any thing.
We will help you.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Rajiv
A clarification is needed from your side. More then once a question was addressed to you but was replied by Mr. Bandar and his replied mentioned 'We' word.
Do you agree that the answer came from your behalf too. Are you included in the 'WE' as Mr. Bandar utters.
A clarification is needed from your side. More then once a question was addressed to you but was replied by Mr. Bandar and his replied mentioned 'We' word.
Do you agree that the answer came from your behalf too. Are you included in the 'WE' as Mr. Bandar utters.
kuldeep last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I shall copy a post that I have just made on another thread which may give members a different perspective to the present debate as to what make Murthy tick.
He is obviously suffering from some serious delusions as he now has confirmed his condition by:
'We is the 'royal 'we'' as we call it. '
Here is the copy of my post:
I am simply amazed at the tenacity of Murthy who first confused you and even now continues to do so merely because he wishes to have the last word. It is unfortunate that his last word is always to criticize even more the advice that I have given you which naturally confuses you the patient, which seems such a shame and requires some action on the part of the moderator of this forum which does not seem to be forthcoming.
It is only too obvious that Murthr is being attacked by other members of this forum who have been helping patients for the past few years in comparison to his own pathetic efforts in the recent past which did not seem to go down with the members, especially the new members who have by now, discovered that he is just a windy old gas bag, who although he professes to be the ultimate classical homeopath has yet to show his prowess by condescending to help someone in distress with his hyper classical version of homeopathic remedies. He prefers to sit on the side lines and continues to insult the prescribers and to confuse patients like you who wish to be helped by a remedy for your ailment.
Those of us who still are present on this forum have to weather on a daily basis, his insults as also the insults of a female member who feels that she is cute in her analysis of homeopathic matters. She often feels that she can interject the skills that she has gathered in her hair dressing career into homeopathy and so obviously fails miserably in doing so. She does however provide tactical support to Murthy as she seems to shadow his posts and swoons on his pontifications which give her some vicarious delight whenever he makes a pest of himself on the forum, insulting me and other members who are present here purely to help those who seek assistance.
It is strange that the moderator of this forum has permitted this form of licentiousness as it detracts from the avowed purpose of this forum which is to help to alleviate human suffering with our own individual use of homeopathic remedies which as you can see from the many posts that I personally have made which have now reached almost the 5000 mark over a period of over 4 years have been focussed on helping the afflicted. The large majority of patients whom I have helped with the remedies that I have pioneered have confirmed that my therapy has helped them and the surprise is when Murthy continues to attack me and the patients for following my prescriptions which is fully aware have helped them to recover. I find this behaviour very strange and as a member reported may be due to some alcoholic haze which clouds his reasoning.
You are advised to ignore Murthy's ravings as I am unable to stop them myself except by warning members that he is proving to be a pest whose advice is best ignored.
He is obviously suffering from some serious delusions as he now has confirmed his condition by:
'We is the 'royal 'we'' as we call it. '
Here is the copy of my post:
I am simply amazed at the tenacity of Murthy who first confused you and even now continues to do so merely because he wishes to have the last word. It is unfortunate that his last word is always to criticize even more the advice that I have given you which naturally confuses you the patient, which seems such a shame and requires some action on the part of the moderator of this forum which does not seem to be forthcoming.
It is only too obvious that Murthr is being attacked by other members of this forum who have been helping patients for the past few years in comparison to his own pathetic efforts in the recent past which did not seem to go down with the members, especially the new members who have by now, discovered that he is just a windy old gas bag, who although he professes to be the ultimate classical homeopath has yet to show his prowess by condescending to help someone in distress with his hyper classical version of homeopathic remedies. He prefers to sit on the side lines and continues to insult the prescribers and to confuse patients like you who wish to be helped by a remedy for your ailment.
Those of us who still are present on this forum have to weather on a daily basis, his insults as also the insults of a female member who feels that she is cute in her analysis of homeopathic matters. She often feels that she can interject the skills that she has gathered in her hair dressing career into homeopathy and so obviously fails miserably in doing so. She does however provide tactical support to Murthy as she seems to shadow his posts and swoons on his pontifications which give her some vicarious delight whenever he makes a pest of himself on the forum, insulting me and other members who are present here purely to help those who seek assistance.
It is strange that the moderator of this forum has permitted this form of licentiousness as it detracts from the avowed purpose of this forum which is to help to alleviate human suffering with our own individual use of homeopathic remedies which as you can see from the many posts that I personally have made which have now reached almost the 5000 mark over a period of over 4 years have been focussed on helping the afflicted. The large majority of patients whom I have helped with the remedies that I have pioneered have confirmed that my therapy has helped them and the surprise is when Murthy continues to attack me and the patients for following my prescriptions which is fully aware have helped them to recover. I find this behaviour very strange and as a member reported may be due to some alcoholic haze which clouds his reasoning.
You are advised to ignore Murthy's ravings as I am unable to stop them myself except by warning members that he is proving to be a pest whose advice is best ignored.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Is he working for some other party to derail this website?? This question has been asked by more than one person and more than once: Is he working for some third party to kill this site.
Or we can use the idiom:
Some one else's dog.
Dr. Deoshlok Sharma has alread predicted: Virus.
Is he working for some other party to derail this website?? This question has been asked by more than one person and more than once: Is he working for some third party to kill this site.
Or we can use the idiom:
Some one else's dog.
Dr. Deoshlok Sharma has alread predicted: Virus.
kuldeep last decade
Dear Pankaj,
First of all, accept my congratulations for your sheer honesty and modest admittance of the fact that you had not thought along the lines i suggested in my post.But as you have seen yourself in your long experience as a prescriber, the high potency remedies (the 10M, 50M, CM etc.) work despite the absence of matter in them.This has been the 'bogey' for the official sciences which has caused them to dismiss 'homeopathy' as a humbug and all incidents of 'cures' as 'placebo' effect.
It is sure that some energy is released in the process of dilution and succusion of the remedy.'Succussion' is as important as 'dilution' in the process of potentisation.Why 'succussion' helps in potentising is a bit difficult to understand at the current level of scientific advancement.But that it helps in 'potentising' and can be experienced personally by any one via this simple experiment that i am suggesting.
Take Arnica Q.Add on drop to 100 drops of water.Do not shake or succuss at all.Simply take one drop from this solutio and again add 100 drops of water to it.Do not shake again.Repeat this process 30 times.Now you have Arnica 30C in terms of dilution.But this remedy solution has not been shaken violently ('succussed') at each stage as is normally done.So, that is the only difference.Now just add a few drops of alcohol to preserve this solution.Next time someone gets hurt, give this unsuccussed Arnica 30 to the person.It will have no effect as the matter (molecules of Arnica) have been diluted out of existence.But give a dose of normal Arnica 30C which is prepared by dilution and 'succussion' at each stage.And it will work like the magic medicine that it is.So, its a hands on proof of the fact that 'succussion' helps in releasing the hidden 'healing energy' in some manner.How and why is still unanswered by Science of today.Though there are many attempts to explain but no definitive explanation that is accepted by all.
In this connection, to those who are interested, they can google for Poincare and read about his experiment with a photograph.It is known in Science as the Poincare Effect.It is the best intuitive proof of the 'homeopathic phenomena'.I will just summarize the experiment briefly for everyone's benefit.Poincare stretched a photograph in a certain fixed manner in all directions.This was done in a number of iterations.After each iteration, the dimensions of the person's face would be changed.And after a few iterations, it is no longer the photograph of a man.The face is totally lost and after a while becomes totally lost.But when he kept on repeating this stretching, after a number of iterations the same face started to appear again.Everyone could see that it is the same face, but with lighter colours and finer features.This happens till infinity.That is the face reappears in a finer and finer manner and then disappears.This is one of the most stunning experiments in the field of Science and gives an intuitive proof of so many phenomena such as 'homeopathy', 'reincarnations', and for a deep thinker of many more things.
I suggest the people to do their own research in this most fascinating topic.
All the best.
Rajiv
First of all, accept my congratulations for your sheer honesty and modest admittance of the fact that you had not thought along the lines i suggested in my post.But as you have seen yourself in your long experience as a prescriber, the high potency remedies (the 10M, 50M, CM etc.) work despite the absence of matter in them.This has been the 'bogey' for the official sciences which has caused them to dismiss 'homeopathy' as a humbug and all incidents of 'cures' as 'placebo' effect.
It is sure that some energy is released in the process of dilution and succusion of the remedy.'Succussion' is as important as 'dilution' in the process of potentisation.Why 'succussion' helps in potentising is a bit difficult to understand at the current level of scientific advancement.But that it helps in 'potentising' and can be experienced personally by any one via this simple experiment that i am suggesting.
Take Arnica Q.Add on drop to 100 drops of water.Do not shake or succuss at all.Simply take one drop from this solutio and again add 100 drops of water to it.Do not shake again.Repeat this process 30 times.Now you have Arnica 30C in terms of dilution.But this remedy solution has not been shaken violently ('succussed') at each stage as is normally done.So, that is the only difference.Now just add a few drops of alcohol to preserve this solution.Next time someone gets hurt, give this unsuccussed Arnica 30 to the person.It will have no effect as the matter (molecules of Arnica) have been diluted out of existence.But give a dose of normal Arnica 30C which is prepared by dilution and 'succussion' at each stage.And it will work like the magic medicine that it is.So, its a hands on proof of the fact that 'succussion' helps in releasing the hidden 'healing energy' in some manner.How and why is still unanswered by Science of today.Though there are many attempts to explain but no definitive explanation that is accepted by all.
In this connection, to those who are interested, they can google for Poincare and read about his experiment with a photograph.It is known in Science as the Poincare Effect.It is the best intuitive proof of the 'homeopathic phenomena'.I will just summarize the experiment briefly for everyone's benefit.Poincare stretched a photograph in a certain fixed manner in all directions.This was done in a number of iterations.After each iteration, the dimensions of the person's face would be changed.And after a few iterations, it is no longer the photograph of a man.The face is totally lost and after a while becomes totally lost.But when he kept on repeating this stretching, after a number of iterations the same face started to appear again.Everyone could see that it is the same face, but with lighter colours and finer features.This happens till infinity.That is the face reappears in a finer and finer manner and then disappears.This is one of the most stunning experiments in the field of Science and gives an intuitive proof of so many phenomena such as 'homeopathy', 'reincarnations', and for a deep thinker of many more things.
I suggest the people to do their own research in this most fascinating topic.
All the best.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
Murthy,
You did not read the 'etc., etc.,etc.'..in my post.
While you are your self blind to the written word..you accuse me of not knowing a subject.
Many of us...by this time know that you have come here to kill this site. Becoz...no aomount of reasoning with you has helped
anybody.
You don't even have the decency to carry on an intelligent discussion without making personal attacks.
Be assured, we will not allow you to kill this site...as we have nurtured it for a long time.
I would not have wasted so many words on you...I am only writing all this for other readers so that they are also made aware of your 'hidden agenda'.
Pankaj Varma
You did not read the 'etc., etc.,etc.'..in my post.
While you are your self blind to the written word..you accuse me of not knowing a subject.
Many of us...by this time know that you have come here to kill this site. Becoz...no aomount of reasoning with you has helped
anybody.
You don't even have the decency to carry on an intelligent discussion without making personal attacks.
Be assured, we will not allow you to kill this site...as we have nurtured it for a long time.
I would not have wasted so many words on you...I am only writing all this for other readers so that they are also made aware of your 'hidden agenda'.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Rajiv,
Thanks for letting us know about Poincare Effect.
Now, in your post about potency medicines you say:
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'How and why is still unanswered by Science of today.Though there are many attempts to explain but no definitive explanation that is accepted by all.'
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So all we can say ...in terminology of science is that it is an 'Empirical* relationship'...i.e. 'it is an observed natural phenomenon' that high potencies work on the human body.
The energy relationship which some books give has not been established.
Murthy ...your answer of 'dynamic energy' being present there is not confirmed by Rajiv.
If at all, 'dynamic energy' gets stored in a bottle of potensised homeopathic medicine....then a lab technologist should be able to take a reading of that energy.
Also , higher the potency...higher should be the reading of the 'dynamic energy'.
Pankaj Varma
Thanks for letting us know about Poincare Effect.
Now, in your post about potency medicines you say:
###
'How and why is still unanswered by Science of today.Though there are many attempts to explain but no definitive explanation that is accepted by all.'
###
So all we can say ...in terminology of science is that it is an 'Empirical* relationship'...i.e. 'it is an observed natural phenomenon' that high potencies work on the human body.
The energy relationship which some books give has not been established.
Murthy ...your answer of 'dynamic energy' being present there is not confirmed by Rajiv.
If at all, 'dynamic energy' gets stored in a bottle of potensised homeopathic medicine....then a lab technologist should be able to take a reading of that energy.
Also , higher the potency...higher should be the reading of the 'dynamic energy'.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
The logical and EMPIRICAL methods of science:
There is no single scientific method. Some of the methods of science involve logic, e.g., drawing inferences or deductions from hypotheses, or thinking out the logical implications of causal relationships in terms of necessary or sufficient conditions. Some of the methods are------ EMPIRICAL---------, such as making observations, designing controlled experiments, or designing instruments to use in collecting data.
There is no single scientific method. Some of the methods of science involve logic, e.g., drawing inferences or deductions from hypotheses, or thinking out the logical implications of causal relationships in terms of necessary or sufficient conditions. Some of the methods are------ EMPIRICAL---------, such as making observations, designing controlled experiments, or designing instruments to use in collecting data.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj,
Dynamic energy or spirit like energy are just ways of expressing this 'something' which gets released from the remedy substance.Because, Science has not been able to understand the nature of this energy.To measure something, you need to have instruments that will register this energy.Till date no such instrument has been built.It is like trying to measure the 'prana' ('life force' or 'atma') that dwells in our body.No lab technology exists to measure this.Such ideas come to your mind because you have not read or thought enough about this.
The quantum physics may one day be able to explain or understand this.But as of now, it is a long way off.The desire to measure it with a meter or something is still a long way off.
Any way.I am happy enough to tell this much.You are invited to read more, think more and then come back for more 'meaningful' discussions if you wish.
With warm regards,
Rajiv
Dynamic energy or spirit like energy are just ways of expressing this 'something' which gets released from the remedy substance.Because, Science has not been able to understand the nature of this energy.To measure something, you need to have instruments that will register this energy.Till date no such instrument has been built.It is like trying to measure the 'prana' ('life force' or 'atma') that dwells in our body.No lab technology exists to measure this.Such ideas come to your mind because you have not read or thought enough about this.
The quantum physics may one day be able to explain or understand this.But as of now, it is a long way off.The desire to measure it with a meter or something is still a long way off.
Any way.I am happy enough to tell this much.You are invited to read more, think more and then come back for more 'meaningful' discussions if you wish.
With warm regards,
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
Dear Rajiv,
I am an Electronics Engineer and I am aware of measuring and testing technologies plus capabilities of medical lab technologists and microbiologists.
When people talk of 'dynamic energy' in the bottle of homeopathic medicine...two possibilities exist:
1. The energy level is readable in the liquid bottle of homeopathic medicine ..when compared to the energy level of an ordinary alcohol bottle of same size, same alcohol quality,dilution etc.
There are instruments that can read the energy difference (if it exists) fairly accurately.
2. Other possibility is :
When the homeopathic high potency med touches the surface or lower portion of the tongue...some energy is released.
There are electronic sensors which can read this also...and there are trained medical lab technologists who are very well versed in this kind of exercise. This can also be measured fairly accurately.
So if dynamic energy really exists in a high potency homeopathic medicine...it can be measured.
Thanks and wishes,
Pankaj Varma
I am an Electronics Engineer and I am aware of measuring and testing technologies plus capabilities of medical lab technologists and microbiologists.
When people talk of 'dynamic energy' in the bottle of homeopathic medicine...two possibilities exist:
1. The energy level is readable in the liquid bottle of homeopathic medicine ..when compared to the energy level of an ordinary alcohol bottle of same size, same alcohol quality,dilution etc.
There are instruments that can read the energy difference (if it exists) fairly accurately.
2. Other possibility is :
When the homeopathic high potency med touches the surface or lower portion of the tongue...some energy is released.
There are electronic sensors which can read this also...and there are trained medical lab technologists who are very well versed in this kind of exercise. This can also be measured fairly accurately.
So if dynamic energy really exists in a high potency homeopathic medicine...it can be measured.
Thanks and wishes,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hi Pankaj
If there is no dynamic energy (which you can't measure) in the homeopathic medicines, how do you explain their working?
Murthy
If there is no dynamic energy (which you can't measure) in the homeopathic medicines, how do you explain their working?
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
What cannot be explained by known scintific logic is called 'Empirical phenomenon'...or observed phenomenon....that is all.
Quartz crytals release energy on application of external mechanical force....that energy quantum is measurable by electronic instruments.
When materials release energy ...it can be measured.
Further more, law of energy is that it cannot be released from nothing. It is only transformation from one form of energy to another.(Electrical to light in bulb, mechanical to sound in guitar, mechanical to electric in hydropower stations, electrical to mechanical in a mixie..etc. etc.)
Only exception is nuclear energy...which is released by bombardment of nuclear energy generating materials and process is known as 'fusion'....here mass is getting converted into energy and follows the E = mc squared relationship....given by Albert Eienstien.
Pankaj Varma
Quartz crytals release energy on application of external mechanical force....that energy quantum is measurable by electronic instruments.
When materials release energy ...it can be measured.
Further more, law of energy is that it cannot be released from nothing. It is only transformation from one form of energy to another.(Electrical to light in bulb, mechanical to sound in guitar, mechanical to electric in hydropower stations, electrical to mechanical in a mixie..etc. etc.)
Only exception is nuclear energy...which is released by bombardment of nuclear energy generating materials and process is known as 'fusion'....here mass is getting converted into energy and follows the E = mc squared relationship....given by Albert Eienstien.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
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