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Hi Joe,

I am diagnosed with PCOS. I have been taking allopathy medicines ( metformin 500 mg and spironolact 25 mg)for that. I have started taking homeopathy medicine to treat PCOS ( have taken only one dose of apis mel 30c and taking kali sulph daily twice). Will your medicine work for me for cure of obesity?
 
bhashita last decade
I doubt that Nat Phos 6x can help you with your PCOS.

However if you wish to reduce your weight it is very likely that it may help as it has helped thousands of others who are overweight throughout the world.

One problem that I can forsee is that this remedy is extremely shy and does not work when used with other drugs. Since you are using other medication it may not work but there is no harm in taking 2 tablets after both lunch and dinner and checking your weight in a week.

It may still help to reduce your weight and if it does so, please post your response.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe, my husband and I both take sodium based drugs on regular basis. My husband takes montelukast and I am on thyroxine. After having read this forum, I feel we might not be that fortunate so as to reduce weight. But, would natrum phos. atleast help in reducing acid reflux, bloating and as sometimes stated reducing cholesterol as well? Would that property of natrum phos. work? We are not obese but would definately want to shed off few pounds. We might be starting our 'treatment' from next week and if we have a desirable result shall let you know.
 
mohini last decade
I note that you and your husband take Sodium based drugs on a regular basis.

You may like to know that at age 76 I have not used any drugs whatsoever since 2002 when I was in surgery and used Cipro for 3 weeks. I have not used any drug since and none for about 20 years prior to surgery. I believe that I owe my present state of health to this complete abstinence from drugs and hope that I will be able to maintain this record in the future as well.

I have observed that drugs in various forms extract a price from the user and although they may be the obvious choice in the event of some major infection, I have observed that the natural resistance of the body is increased if drugs are not used as a way of life.

Homeopathic remedies like Nat Phos 6x are extremely shy and will not help to reduce weight if used with other drugs. It will however help to reduce acidity and if this is your main problem, it will help you.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for your prompt reply. My husband had severe asthma attacks and later on he started blacking out frequently which proved to be very dangerous. We tried homeopathic drugs as senegaQ, blattaQ,grindeliaQ, lycopodium all on doctor's advise but nothing worked and finally as a life saver we had to resort to this sodium based medicine. I had been diagnosed hypothyroid 13 yrs. back so am on maintainance dose of eltroxin. I hope there is no harm done in taking natrum phos. even though we do not shed off some weight which we would have loved to. Acidity is not a problem but I sense my husband has reflux and so has been advised an early dinner. You indeed are fortunate and may God shower you with his blessings as he has been till date.
 
mohini last decade
You may wonder how I replied so quickly after your post which has just arrived. I have a standard set of instructions for ailments like Asthma that I have prescribed so often that it is more convenient for me to copy and paste it as I have done below.

I would like to add that this remedy Nat Sulph 6c if used precisely in the manner that I have prescribed it has helped over 50 patients whom I have treated in Sri Lanka, who were dependent on Inhalers to survive and do not use them any more and can be considered cured.

If your husband decides to use this therapy, please request him to post his response in 2 weeks.


I have treated many cases of Asthma successfully in adults and the remedy that I recommend you use is Nat Sulph 6c which must be used precisely in the manner indicated below:

Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from your nearest supermarket.
Pour out 100ml
Drop in 3 pellets or 1 drop of liquid Nat Sulph 6c into the 400ml water
Cap the bottle tightly and succuss it 4-6 times by banging on your palm and look out for the air bubbles to fizzle up from the bottom.
Pour out 1 teaspoonful of the potentized remedy into half a cup of water from another bottle of the same water and stir it gently.
Sip 1 teaspoonful of the water from the cup just once daily.

You will have to stop all other medication if you wish to start on this therapy.

This remedy should be taken daily for some time in the future and you may like to know that I have many instances of adults who were chronic sufferers from Asthma for many years who do not use the remedy any more after about 4 months on this therapy. Others who were not so chronic react favourably in a few days and only use the remedy if and when necessary.

The remedy that I have used when the patient is having an acute attack and is straining for breath is Ars Alb 200c. This remedy is taken dry and just 4 globules will suffice for a dose which may only be taken just once daily when the patient is gasping for breath. This usually clears the lungs and opens up the airways in under 20 minutes.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Joe, I would be going out of context regarding my husband's asthma. Do you think I should start a new thread in which I shall tell you all the homeopathic medicines he took and the symptoms which finally forced us to shift to allopathy. I would like you to answer however disjointed the forum would become. Waiting for your reply.
 
mohini last decade
Yes I agree that this thread which is about Obesity is now discussing Asthma.

Do start a new thread entitled Asthma and I shall be glad to help your husband.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Dr. Livera,

My homeopathic doctor in India prescribed me Focus V 30 and Calcaria Carb 1000 for weight loss. Do you think these medicines will be effective in weight loss? Thanaks
 
vdwivedi last decade
I do not know what Focus V30 is and it is very unlikely that Calc Carb 1M will help for weight loss.

I have used Nat Phos 6c for over 2 years and thousands have benefited from its use.

Why don't you also use it and check you weight in a week to see if it has helped you ?

Incidentally I do not qualify to be addressed as a Doctor as I do not have any qualifications although I have been in Homeopathy for the last 30 years and have been able to help many on the forums and those who visit me which I do free of charge.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Joe, do you think that could be a possibility that the medicine is fucus vesiculosus? I have read that it used for weight loss program. By the way, I have just started taking natrum phos and maybe psychologically or otherwise am feeling lighter! would come to know the result within a few days time.
 
mohini last decade
This is what Boricke's Repertory states about Fucus V:

A remedy for obesity and non-toxic goitre; also exophthalmic. Digestion is furthered and flatulence diminished. Obstinate constipation; forehead feels as if compressed by an iron ring. Thyroid enlargement in obese subjects.

I have however not used it as I am more than satisfied with Nat Phos 6x which reduces weight in about 80% of the cases that use it.

Your reaction is quite normal and almost everyone has reported that they feel much lighter in a few days on the therapy.

You may like to know that Nat Phos is Sodium Phosphate and at 6x potency the actual salt present in a tablet is 1/1millionth of the salt.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Joe,
Your information on Nat phos is very interesting. Homeopathy is banned in most Gulf countries :-( So I have to wait for my next trip to India to get my supply. Meanwhile I have a real old bottle (10 years ) of Natrum Phosphoricum 6x. Would it be still effective. I also take Bupropion Hydrohloride (Bupron SR 150 ) for my PMS.would that interact with Nat Phos ?
Thanks
Mirnah
 
mirnah last decade
To: Mirnah

If your Nat Phos 6x tablets are not damp or discoloured and have been stored in an air tight container, it is most likely that they are still potent even after 10 years.

I presume that you wish to use this remedy for weight reduction but I doubt that it would do so if you also take other drugs with it.

You may however take it when you do not take your PMS medication which I presume you use for only a limited time during the month.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Joe,
Thanks !I appreciate your prompt response. Yes I am interested in Nat Phos for weight reduction.I take PMS medication 3 times a week.
Would it still work if I could perhaps take Nat phos on alternative days ?
Thank you
Mirnah
 
mirnah last decade
I am on Nat. Phos for last 2 months. I see a significant improvement in my weight. I lost 7 KG.
 
fred06 last decade
To Fred

Thank you for confirming your loss of weight on this thread.

You have lost about 1kg per week and I would recommend that you now reduce your dosage to just 1 tablet after lunch and dinner to slow down the rate of your weight reduction. The ideal should be around 0.5kg per week and this should continue for some months in the future till you are comfortable with your weight when you can stop using the remedy.

I am still amazed how Nat Phos 6x can reduce weight and a record such as yours will help to confirm that although this remedy is not recorded in the classical texts for weight reduction, it really does so very safely.

You can imagine the great favour that this remedy can bestow on the Obese population of the world, especially in the US whose population is officially recognized to be 65% Obese.

I have tried to spread the word in the media that this simple remedy is the Ultimate Cure for Obesity but not one of those who can spread this message to the world are interested in doing so, merely because it is a Homeopathic Remedy.

It is my fervent hope that this obvious prejudice against Homeopathy will be overcome and that this remedy will be used wherever it can to help anyone who is obese to reduce weight safely.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe,

I am overweight and will also take Nat Phos and post results on this forum. Also, I would like to congratulate you on your discovery and the selfless efforts in spreading it to the world!!! Your willingness to help others with your discovery is admirable!!! It can be the greatest gift to overweight people like me who struggle with all type of methods to reduce weight unsuccessfully. You can published research paper on this work? I am in US and if I benefit, I will also spread this remedy to as many people as I can.

By the way, does the potency has to be 6X or can it be higher? Can I order liquid dilution instead of tablets? Thanks.
 
vdwivedi last decade
To Vdwivedi,

Glad to note that you will use Nat Phos to help with weight loss. Please note that it is only Nat Phos 6x (biochemic) that will reduce weight. I have experimented with 3x, 12x, 30x ( triturated) and the higher potencies which are always supplied in ethanol like 6c, 30c and 200c but none of them work to reduce weight.

It was a chance in a million that I had when I discovered that the 6x reduced weight in an obese man for whom I gave the Nat Phos 6x for his GERD. He discovered that his weight was also dropping while his ailment was also cured. I believe he reduced about 25kg from 135kg.

You may like to know that a new drug RIMONABENT has been released at a $25 per tablet and they have discovered many side effects and more information can be had by a search on Google. It is still highly advertised while a simple remedy like Nat Phos 6x which has been proved to reduce weight is not even talked about except on the ABC.

There is no doubt that this remedy can help to reduce weight safely in the Obese and I keep hoping that the media will promote it worldwide to help those unfortunate people who can lose weight as so many have already done with Nat Phos 6x.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
It is the caffein in Coffee that antidotes the Nat Phos from its priceless adjunct of reducing weight. It will always help with acidity after a meal but does not work as a weight reducing agent with Coffee.

The contents of caffein in tea is much less than in coffee but tea is rich in Amphetamines which do not seem to antidote the Nat Phos 6x from reducing weight.

I presume that you will take 2 tablets after both lunch and dinner to reduce weight. After you have stabilized you can reduce the dosage to just 1 tab after meals and your scale will be your best judge of how you are progressing and what the dosage should be.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
I am a borderline hypothyroid patient, thyroid levels under control without any medication, but have put on weight in the last two years, though it hasnt slowed me down physically or mentally, i have a heavy feeling and i do not want the weight loss to be just water loss from the body.
also what about the weight bouncing back once you stop taking the medicine.
please reply asap
thanks
 
vyushti last decade
I have often questioned those who have used the Nat Phos therapy and they all confirmed that they did not experience any more frequent visits to the toilet which proves that this weight loss that I observed in my first patient about 2 years ago is not connected to loss of liquids from the body. I had given Nat Phos to him for his GERD and he dropped his weight by about 1.5kg per week and is now about 85kg from his original 130kg.

I believe that Nat Phos 6x helps to accelerate the passage of food down the digestive tract and thereby prevents the components of the digested food from being stored as fat. I do wish that some tests are done to verify my theory but this is not possible in Sri Lanka where I live.

I have many patients who after they achieved their ideal weight have reduced the dosage to just 1 tablet after meals and watch the scale to verify if they are putting it back on. It is not a difficult exercise and is of some academic interest to me and can be a life saver to the Obese patient.

You are also advised to use Arnica 30c in the wet dose with 1 teaspoonful sipped twice daily as this may help your general condition and may even help your thyroid.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
Thanks for the prompt reply.
So i start with nat phos 6X 2 tabs thrice daily after meals.
Arnica 30c in wet dose twice daily(does that mean arnica 30 solution or pills dissolved in water? please clarify).
any time gap between nat phos and arnica 30c or any preferable time for the latter.
any medications that act against these.
Also of late (past 4/6 months) i have noticed overall thinning of my hair, though thyroid levels have been normal. please suggest something for this too...as i am alarmed!!!
precautions that need to be observed while under medication?
some more abt me...i am an indian woman 37 years old-5'3'- overweight say by 10/12kgs, am borderline hypothyroid patient (after my first child, have two kids, both c-section)under control without medication......no other problems as such, digestion seems fine no constipation, the menstrual cycle exceeds by 5/7 days each time. bleeding is normal ,though clotted at times. experience back ache and cramps around the second day. lasts for abt 4/5 days.
am always packing more than i can chew...managing home, work, kids(2), family n friends..but lead a happy and fairly content life nonetheless..anything else that needs to b answered, pl let me know
please help
thanks

thanks
 
vyushti last decade
To make the Arnica wet dose you use either 3 globules or 2 drops of the remedy in Ethanol which you can get from any Homeopathy Pharmacy in India.
The latter is better as you are sure that you use Arnica 30c in ethanol.

Keep about an hour between the remedies and remember to succuss (shake) the bottle at least 10 times before sipping a teaspoonful.

Do not take cola drinks, preserved meats containing Saltpeter and coffee.

Arnica will help to arrest hair loss. Type Hair Loss into the search forums window on the left of this page to read the advice that I have given to help this problem.

Arnica Q in coconut oil massaged into the scalp will also help. Use only Johnsons shampoo for the hair every other day.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks Joe,
I will definitely try these remedies.
how much of arnica q to be mixed to the coconut hair oil????
 
vyushti last decade
You can mix a 3:1 solution Coconut or Olive Oil : Arnica Q.
It really works !
 
Joe De Livera last decade

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