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Pam, I read about the baths earlier in this message board and decided what the heck, it couldn't hurt and geez, I couldn't imagine at the time I started them that I could feel worse. Not sure what the hydr. peroxide does but the Epsom salts are supposed to help draw toxins out of your skin and body. I know I'm way more relaxed after taking the baths and have done it every night since last Friday and have had no muscle pain or soreness. Still have this bloated belly, though, and feel like the michelin man. The baths just seem to be a natural way to help cleanse this stuff out. I hope it helps you out! Some people (not me) use Epsom salts for constipation -- a teaspoon in water or something. No, thank you. I did that gallbladder flush several months ago and had to drink Epsom salts in water and it was horrendous!

Fruitbat, Thanks for the info on the baths. Did you have extreme muscle and joint pain also? I think I overdosed on advil and tylenol just trying to cope with it. Did the baths relieve this muscle pain? (I ove the sentence,"What the heck, I couldn't feel worse.!- so true.)
I'm wondering about using wellbutrin / or zoloft while weaning off effexor for the second time. Anyone done this? Then there is the herbal route....Thanks, Pam

hi everyone!
i'm sorry i haven't had a chance to really update and leave more personal comment for you all, but life has been crazy the past few days. :-)
you're all in my thoughts, though, and i am proud of us all and feeling empathy for those that are still going through the worst parts of this mess.
today is my ... hold on, i actually have to think!... 10th effexor-free day. yay! i'm still hanging in here and taking it day by day. i can definitely see a vast improvement, not that i'm 'there' yet but things are getting better slowly. less dizziness, less brain zaps today although yesterday was pretty rotten. i seem to stagger: one good day, the next not-so-good. i've also had horrible insomnia for the past 3 or 4 days and so i'm exhausted, which doesn't help my moods. i just can't sleep until well after midnight, even with a dramamine. anyone else having this?
today i'm also having troubles with puffy ankles and just generally feeling worn out and puffy all over. blech.
i'm taking a product called 'pure calm' that i read about somewhere (maybe on here) in my getting-off-effexor research. i'm going to be the guinea pig and let you all know if it helps my anxiety. :-) it's all natural, and it has a money back guarantee so hey, why not?

laurel, i'm so sorry to hear you're having a bad day today... i understand how that goes. i hate crying in front of people and there've been a few times the past 2 weeks when i've just sobbed beyond controlling. *hugs* hang in there.

bonnie, i'm sorry you're having a rough time today, too. over the weekend i had the constant headache and achiness - it's awful! take care of you.

thanks for the one-week congrats, melissa!

elena, i start my job in 1.5 weeks. i'm so excited! and, also anxious and overwhelmed and nervous and ... haha. thanks for asking!

fruitbat, those baths sound marvelous. i only have a shower, dangit! but let me know if it does help with the horrible aching.

dawn, so glad to hear that your daughter is doing well.

everyone here is an inspiration to me - thank you for that. i know we can do this!

beemarie, whilst soaking in the tub, I read on the Epsom salts box that you can spot-relieve sore muscles and achiness by taking a large bowl (or I'd say stopping up your sink) and filling with hot water and a couple scoops of Epsom salts. Let dissolve and soak a dish or hand towel in the water to absorb the mixture and use it as a compress on the sore spots. We did this for my husband yesterday for his really sore arm after softball and it seemed to really help. oh, that was in response to saying you only had a shower. we just went to waffle house and I ate a waffle, scrambled eggs with toast and hashbrowns. I wonder why I'm bloated? just kidding. Oooh, also, when I used to exercise the odor-free Aspercreme really, really helped the sore muscles and achiness, especially if you have a few minutes to lie there and let it dry. that is all.

thank you, fruitbat! great tips. your username reminds me of 'monty python and the holy grail' every time i look at it. :-)

So many of you are suffering with aches and pains right now, Bonnie, Naria, and others. I feel for you and you are scaring me. I had some problems when I dropped from the 75 to 37.5 but the pains went away. They were worse in the areas I have had surgery and my arthritis. I hate to ache, I have had enough pain in the last ten years with my back and hip, I hope I get through this okay.

Right now I feel really good, for the past two days, a bit of insomnia, just a few zaps, an occasional hot flash, lots of energy, not much disorientation - must be all the stuff I am putting in my body to combat the withdrawal and the cholesterol. And I lost 2 lbs in the past week and have not been dieting!

Went in the archives on this forum looking for cholesterol sites and found several effexor orphans out there with no replies, I directed them to our site, hope they show up. Saw you there, Ronda, you found your way here. (Only went back to first of April - figure by then they didn't need or want help.)

Fruitbat - thanks for the new term for my vocabulary. I still haven't stopped laughing! But our whole body is involved in this withdrawal process, and we have to go with the flow. I live in SC and agree with your assessment of hot and muggy. We have lived here 17 years and if we hadn't lived in the DC area first, I don't know if I would have been able to handle the summers. But now I have trouble going back to New England in the winter. Went back 6 years ago in Jan for a funeral and it was snowing and the next morning 10 below, my blood has definitely thinned.

Anyway, I spent yesterday afternoon having my hair straightened. I have naturally curly hair which frizzes in the humidity here in the summer and I mean frizz. So I have it straightened every June for the summer and by the time it grows out, fall and drier air are here. My hairdresser is a health nut, we talked all about the stuff I am taking and he suggested some more. If I have any cholesterol in my blood left, I will be surprised.

Naria and Mamamia- I've never been to NE, that is one of the states I am missing, not IA. My daughter did an internship at the Henry Dorley Zoo in Omaha for six weeks her fourth year in vet school. She loved it out there.

Bonnie - the cake was delicious but a bit moist and crumbly, you forgot to give us cooking directions, I just followed the ones on the cake mix box. I use fat free cool whip, the real stuff not the store brand (that doesn't taste as good). My husband says, yum, yum.

My short term memory has been giving me some problems, so every morning my husband and I sit down and make a list of things I need to do that day. On Tuesday there were only two things on the list, and I forgot half of them.

I have begun bruising a little, upped my vitamin C. Only 2 more weeks til I can lower dosage again and only 3 weeks for my blood test for my cholesterol. Usually I am a patient person, but I am obsessed with this withdrawal and want to get it over with.

I haven't taken the epsom and peroxide bath yet, I haven't had time to soak (I spend too much time reading this forum!) but then I haven't felt that bad YET! I'm really expecting the next drop to be bad.

Wondering - has Stephanie read this site or are you just relaying all the stuff to her?

Some of you get upset when you misspell, use the wrong grammar, etc. So what? We are not english teachers grading you on your work. We have enough trouble concentrating to worry about that. We all know what you are trying to say! To all of you with aches and pains, hang in there.

Love, Cat

So many of you are suffering with aches and pains right now, Bonnie, Naria, and others. I feel for you and you are scaring me. I had some problems when I dropped from the 75 to 37.5 but the pains went away. They were worse in the areas I have had surgery and my arthritis. I hate to ache, I have had enough pain in the last ten years with my back and hip, I hope I get through this okay.

Right now I feel really good, for the past two days, a bit of insomnia, just a few zaps, an occasional hot flash, lots of energy, not much disorientation - must be all the stuff I am putting in my body to combat the withdrawal and the cholesterol. And I lost 2 lbs in the past week and have not been dieting!

Went in the archives on this forum looking for cholesterol sites and found several effexor orphans out there with no replies, I directed them to our site, hope they show up. Saw you there, Ronda, you found your way here. (Only went back to first of April - figure by then they didn't need or want help.)

Fruitbat - thanks for the new term for my vocabulary. I still haven't stopped laughing! But our whole body is involved in this withdrawal process, and we have to go with the flow. I live in SC and agree with your assessment of hot and muggy. We have lived here 17 years and if we hadn't lived in the DC area first, I don't know if I would have been able to handle the summers. But now I have trouble going back to New England in the winter. Went back 6 years ago in Jan for a funeral and it was snowing and the next morning 10 below, my blood has definitely thinned.

Anyway, I spent yesterday afternoon having my hair straightened. I have naturally curly hair which frizzes in the humidity here in the summer and I mean frizz. So I have it straightened every June for the summer and by the time it grows out, fall and drier air are here. My hairdresser is a health nut, we talked all about the stuff I am taking and he suggested some more. If I have any cholesterol in my blood left, I will be surprised.

Naria and Mamamia- I've never been to NE, that is one of the states I am missing, not IA. My daughter did an internship at the Henry Dorley Zoo in Omaha for six weeks her fourth year in vet school. She loved it out there.

Bonnie - the cake was delicious but a bit moist and crumbly, you forgot to give us cooking directions, I just followed the ones on the cake mix box. I use fat free cool whip, the real stuff not the store brand (that doesn't taste as good). My husband says, yum, yum.

My short term memory has been giving me some problems, so every morning my husband and I sit down and make a list of things I need to do that day. On Tuesday there were only two things on the list, and I forgot half of them.

I have begun bruising a little, upped my vitamin C. Only 2 more weeks til I can lower dosage again and only 3 weeks for my blood test for my cholesterol. Usually I am a patient person, but I am obsessed with this withdrawal and want to get it over with.

I haven't taken the epsom and peroxide bath yet, I haven't had time to soak (I spend too much time reading this forum!) but then I haven't felt that bad YET! I'm really expecting the next drop to be bad.

Wondering - has Stephanie read this site or are you just relaying all the stuff to her?

Some of you get upset when you misspell, use the wrong grammar, etc. So what? We are not english teachers grading you on your work. We have enough trouble concentrating to worry about that. We all know what you are trying to say! To all of you with aches and pains, hang in there.

Love, Cat

Goodmorning everyone.
I hope you all had a restful night. I know I could have slept for another 3 hours but at least I slept okay.
As for yesterday BONNIE, I got soaked! LOL Actually it started to pour when I was heading out to my car to drive to the game, and I couldnt get the damn parking gate open because the code wasn't working and the sheets of rain just came down so hard my Umbrella was usless! LOL I finally got it to work and leapt into my car, when I got on the road I looked down to find my beige capri's soaked and hair plastered to my face.
I grumbled to myself and headed to the game, and once I hit that end of town, the rain stopped, and when I got to the venue, no rain had fallen. I couldn't help but laugh! Anyway it turned out to be a beautiful night for a game. I got a great work out and had a good time!
Bonnie I live in Ottawa Canada actually.I'm sure you would have a great time if you traveled the provinces! My Mom and Dad did that for a bit and they really enjoyed it. I am sorry that you have been having a rough time, but it will get better. Just remember to take time to relax and know when you need to take a moment to yourself too. Have you already started the 9mg? I'm starting in 4 days.
Laurel, oh hun I understand that you feel terrible. It has happened to me that I have cried at work, or in an inappropriate situation, and I feel embarressed until I realize that what I am upset about is truly justifiable. Someone may have seen me cry but in the grand scheme of things if I feel a little better from crying I'm gonna do it! LOL And I know you feel like a junkie sometimes, because as I have posted earlier, I do too! Especially when I am dividing up those damn beads! But we all feel this way at times, and unlike Junkies, we are trying to get off this stuff. So be proud of yourself for being strong enough to take on something so huge! You'll be okay, we are all here for you and support you in this. Keep your chin up, we can do this!
SARA, I will join you in buying that stock of Charmin. Seriously.I too have been taking a cleanser. It is this organ and *gasp* colon cleanser for a week now I've been using it and let me tell ya I am feeling cleansed! LOL But hey, if it's cleaning this toxic stuff outta me, then so be it! I agree with you, and of course everyone else that is having success with the episom salt and peroxide baths. I feel no soreness after one of those. And it is really peaceful to sit in a tub with Candles and your favorite book, or some music.
(Side note: Ewwwww, drinking episom salt water.)
PAM have the baths worked for you so far? Have you added the episom and the peroxide? Did you try it yet?
MELISSA good for you playing soccor! Nice! I love getting outside and playing a sport! Obviously because I'm in a Volleyball league! LOL But seriously it makes me feel so alive!
BEE I am so happy for you, with all you're going through you have still managed to go for and get a job that you want!And you did it while you were feeling like death! Good for you! I hate feeling puffy, I just feel really gross. And the uncontrolable emotions? Oh man, look out when I get like that! LOL
Hey there CAT, I know it may seem a bit scary, but at least we can let each other know what to expect. Good for you on your healthy eating and homeopathic remedies! I think that natural stuff is what I am going to go for now.And 2 pounds in a week? Man I want to acheive that too! LOL
JAMI, how you feeling today? How are things going at home?
DAWN, how are you and Steph holding up? Better than ever I hope!

Have a great day all!
Hugs : )
Elena

Cat sorry I didn't mention about how to bake, but you did the right thing. Yes, it is a little moist, but still very tasty. Maybe we should only use say 3/4 of the can. I will try that next time. I told my daughter instead of trying to cut the cake just scoop it out. Taste the same anyway.
Today, my pain is not quite as bad. Maybe it is my fibromyalgia. But then, how would you know. I used some horse linement on my shoulder and it seemed to help. Something I buy at Southern States. It is really good for arthritis so I thought I would try it on my shoulder and it did help. I don't sleep very good either, but this has been a problem for me since I started on effexor. In fact, I have taken Ambien before. I try not to use that, because that too is addictive. Insurance companies do not like to give you that many because of the addiction. Can you imagine!
You can get as many effexor or when my husband had rotator cuff surgery he got as many oxycontin as he needed. Oh well, I am sorry for ranting, but that really makes me mad with insurance companies telling us what we can have and can't. We all know it is a money thing.
Enough of that, sorry again
Well, gotta go girls talk with you again later.
Bonnie

good morning girls

bonnie, elena, naria, bee, cat, thank you all for keeping Steph in your thoughts!

catgrany....to answer your question, steph doesn't read these posts, but we do talk about you all, regularly

naria...thank you for the book titles, (again)...i am sorry to hear you are feeling so emotional & physically miserable as well...i hope when you read this, you can say your day 10 is better already! its tough to be positive when having a day from HELL, but its that knowing & BELIEVING that this too shall pass, that will help to get you through...

As you all know from my postings, i'm here because of my daughter....i appreciate being part of the "group" ...so, i will try & be your motivation...you can count on the "pep talks" from me ...i feel its my way to give back, all we have gotten from all of you!!!

remember....
"the wasted of all days is a day without laughter" e.e.cummings

take care, all....keep a smile in your heart!
~dawn

Good afternoon, all -- I'm on Day 10 of absolutely no Effexor and feeling 100 times better than last weekend and at about 60 - 70% my old self (I don't really remember what my "old self" was since I've been on this crap for 8 years). I've been busy with work and cooking today and I just realized I've only had maybe 1 or 2 brain zaps. Man, what a difference 10 days makes. My annoying little saying that sometimes helps me through is: "Don't give up 5 minutes before the miracle." It's on its way, so don't leave the party before it gets there. I'm truly thinking about all of you and including you in my prayers. My OTHER saying is: "If life gives you lemons, stick them down your shirt and make your boobs look bigger."

Sara

PS, I think the GNC cleansing tablets are really helping get this stuff out of my system faster along with Epsom salts baths that help draw the toxins out through the skin. Also, I'm still sooo bloated around my abdomen but I'm not AS starving as I have been. :^)

Hi, all,

I know there are men lurking here, but I tend to think of this forum as the Effexor Sisterhood. So, Dirk, how are you, and what words of encouragement do you have from your place on the withdrawal spectrum?

I just got off the phone with Star, a very nice psych nurse who covers for my doctor's clinic when they are too busy. I had called my doctor in a panic yesterday, not really sure what I was planning to say to her when she called back. I told Star all this, and she was very understanding and gave me no sense that she thought my calling was nuts behavior. In fact, she said it was probably good just to talk it out with someone and reassured me that the withdrawal is a process.

A new person joined my depression/anxiety support group last night. He's a pharmacist, recently hospitalized for eval for depression/bi-polar. They've ruled out the latter and taken him off the big guns they prescribe for bi-p. His personal drug of choice? Effexor. He's going back on it and is very happy about it. I wished him well and told him I was glad it worked for him. Snuck in as many reminders as possible that many people have problems with it, and he did say that he's a much more compassionate pharmacist now that depression has roosted on his house.

I did a Epsom salt/HP bath last night. Poured in the whole 16oz. bottle. I guess I don't need to do that every time. :-) I do feel better today. I woke up at 5 and decided I wasn't quite ready to get up, then woke up again at 8:30. So I was 20 minutes late for work. Not too bad. I guess the relaxation worked.

This has been the year of living dangerously for me. In other words, too many encounters with doctors. LOL I mentioned when I first started here that I developed a neuropathy in my brachial plexus (upper chest/shoulder/neck) on the right side that was likely a tetanus shot injury. I lost strength, suffered muscle wasting, had a lot of pain, and went through a long diagnosis process. Initial diagnosis was cervical radiculopathy because of the radiating pain into my hand and some correlation to the pain and the C-spine MRI. The neurologist had me take 5(!) courses of prednisolone. Oral steroids. That in itself worries me, although each was a 5 day step down pack, which my doctor kept calling "a wimpy dose." After that and certain PT exercises didn't help, I was referred to a neck surgeon. I almost didn't go to that appointment, but like the urgent care doc who knew about Effexor's dark side (Darth Fexor - lord of the evil empire), this man trumped the neurologists. He didn't see a strong correlation between the muscle weakness/wasting and the MRI and ordered a new MRI of the brachial plexus. So, mystery solved there and no surgery. Alas, all that cortisone was in vain, as it is not effective in treating BP neuropathy. In the meantime, I'm growing new nerve connections and working with the personal trainer to get my muscles back in working order. OK, so you can see why I get panicky with pain. ;-0 I will be applying for compensation from the federal government from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund, which has money (collected from surtaxes on vaccines that the medical establishment pays) for people who have bad reactions to certain injections.

Now, why can't there be something like this for people injured by psychotropics? Rhetorical question. I know the answer is BIG CORPORATIONS WITH BIG BUCKS. There will have to be a major lawsuit against Wyeth-Amherst. That's how the VICF got started, when people started being afraid to get their routine shots for themselves or their kids. Of course, measles, mumps, tetanus, hepatitis, etc. are more public health threats (i.e., contagious -- well, not lockjaw) than behavioral disorders. Must jump off this soapbox for now.

Love, hugs, and compassion for all here,
L.

Heehee -- Naria, "" made me laugh! so glad the bath helped -- you should do it as often as you feel the need to! what a nightmare with all the diagnosis crap for your injury. I had my gallbladder removed in 97 after which I still had (and still have now) the gallstone attacks, so my surgeon sent me to some specialists, all of whom diagnosed with me different things (mitral valve prolapse, IBS, etc.) and claimed I never needed surgery. Please tell Star I love her -- that's awesome.

Sara

fruitbat...excellent job, day 10!!!

naria...just reading your post i can detect you are feeling better than yesterday...don't look back! you have been through so much b.s.with the medical world, you deserve all the emotional days you want to have...not looking for a #, but you sound too young for all of this

dirk..my apologies, we aren't all girls & i knew that...that's what happens when i try & quickly read & write while i'm at work.

day 18 for steph...she has been sleeping more soundly since monday...(she has been going to bed earlier than what's normal for her)...she's not sure if its effexor related or just the fact that she's up by 5:30am & puts in a long day, then goes for a run at least5 days/week. She's still dreaming, but they are nowhere near as bizzare as they were.

naria, we are going to borders this evening to purchase the book(s)steph's eager to read them.

hi everyone.
i'm at work and having a crazy day, but i wanted to ask a question. has anyone else had unbelievable ANGER at times?? i'm telling you - the emotions i've gone through since stopping effexor 11 days ago have been unreal: first few days was the weeping at the drop of a hat, but yesterday and today i have been so totally angry.
granted, i have a stressful job (but not for much longer - yay) and the past two days have been hectic but i have been a total bitch. sorry to say! and every little thing, person, all of my co-workers and our clients are driving me CRAZY. i hate feeling like this! i mean, don't get me wrong, i do have a temper but nothing like this.
it's weird... i feel like since i went off effexor i've been going through this emotional metamorphosis. anyone else feel that way? and it's not altogether unpleasant. my friend told me the other day that i seem like the old me, and i know just what she means. i feel like the effexor (and paxil before it) although very important to helping me over the worst of my depression/anxiety, changed my personality. so subtly that i didn't even realize it.
so now my body and mind are trying to emotionally readjust and reset themselves and i'm on this emotional rollercoaster. *sigh*

angrily yours,
beemarie :-)

Work is done! I'm leaving now and I think I may just go swimming at my boyfriends house, whether he likes it or not! LOL It's so hot and sunny here! I hope everyone has a great night.
Take care,
xo Elena

Beemarie -- I finally decided I had to get out of the house on Monday and made my husband go to the mall with me. That was Day 6 of no Effexor. Then I blew up at him for walking too slowly and looking at me weird, so I made him take me home. Yes, I'm going through it, too.

I think it's like going to the dentist and getting novocaine -- it takes a while for the novocaine to fully wear off, but bit by bit you can feel your face again. It's just taking a few weeks for the Effexor brain/emotion-anesthesia to wear off so it's like hyper-emotions because all of sudden it's THERE and you're feeling it! I was on the phone with a customer today who I speak to every so often and I laughed at something he said, and he said: "wow! I've never heard that laugh from you before! that was awesome." Agreed, it's not totally unpleasant to have emotions, is it? Yay for us!

Sara

PS -- I know I post a lot, I have SO MUCH energy with these new HY-C vitamins I'm taking, plus I type around 100 wpm, plus I work from home and have the message board up. ciao for niao.

fruitbat, the novocaine illustration was perfect! that is exactly how it feels, and i agree: it's almost euphoric to be FEELING things again. even if it's so intense at first. :-)

this hy-c stuff? i know you probably elaborated before but i've forgotten. can you remind me where you got it? i'd love to have 'so much energy'!

Beemarie -- tell me about it -- I'm the sleeping queen of America. I THINK that's what's giving me all this energy (holy crap, I could probably even EXERCISE right now!) because I just started taking it last night and then twice already today and this is the very first time I've felt any energy. I don't think it's the body cleanse GNC stuff or the Epsom salt baths because I've been doing those almost a week.

http://www. (delete this space) healthy-sunshine.com/hy-c.htm

It was recommended by the woman who has the Yahoo Withdrawal and Recovery support group -- she says it's for healthy kidneys and if you're "fearful" this will help, but the bottle says: "Supports normal range blood sugar levels, supports the liver and pancreas, menopause support".

Whatever that means -- I'm bouncing off the walls but not in an anxious way, just an energetic way. I ordered it on Saturday, I think and got it yesterday, so really in 2 days. I'm waiting on my Zhi Can Cao Tang, recommended for: Post-Ilness Debility, General Weakness, Anxiety, Irritability, Palpitations, Insomnia, Sweating(Night Sweating-Spontaneous), Shortness of Breath, Heartbeat(Racing Heartbeat-Irregular), and I just ordered my Jarrow Neuro Optimizer and Carlson Fish Oil, as well. I'm going to buy a vitamin organizer so I don't forget what, when and how! I'll report back on that stuff, too, but I actually feel great right now. :^)

Sara

I just got back from my workout with my personal trainer. I feel really good now and will do another Epsom salt bath later. I'm going to catch up on some work first.

Did I mention that my laptop hard drive has gone the way of all flesh, er, microchips? That was the word from the Geek Squad at Bestbuy on Sunday. So, until I decide my next move -- new computer or new hard drive -- I have no computer access at home. :-(

There is a psychiatrist named Daniel Amen who runs several clinics (CA, OR, DC) that specialize in psychiatric disorders from the perspective of brain health. Some of you may have read his book _Change Your Brain, Change Your Life_. He's a fellow sufferer and his speciality is ADHD. Anyway, I've seen several of his videotapes, and I think he's pretty cool. The reason I'm mentioning him is Sara's comment about fish oil. Dr. Amen is adamant that fish oil is fundamental to the diet of persons with depression/anxiety disorders. I've been lax about taking mine lately, so this is a good reminder. If you want to read about Dr. Amen, his web address is amenclinics dot org. I'm also going to look into this vitamin product that has Fruitbat turning into Batgirl.

Laurel

If any of you wanted to smack me for being all sara sunshine earlier, feel free. just made my first solo trip to wal-mart (our only decent grocery store here) and could've EASILY killed about 5 people. can you spontaneously break out into Tourette's syndrome? because I'm screaming stuff inside my head so loudly that people HAVE to be able to hear me. Okay, that is all. is there a reason people must leave their carts IN the parking spaces, like the one that was RIGHT NEXT TO the cart return? goodbye.

Sara Sunshine, where do you live in P'cola? OK, I'm not too keen on many grocery stores there, but my sister shops at Albertson's. Wal-Mart on the best of days is a trial for me. Not only do people leave carts in parking spaces, they block aisles in the store for long periods of time.

Spontaneous Tourette's! I'm obviously having a drop in blood sugar and getting punchy.

L.

Goodmorning,
Catching up on some posts took a little bit but they were great to read! Bee, Fruitbat and Naria you guys are too cute! I loved reading what you guys posted! All that talk of Novacaine and spontanious tourettes! Oh you put a smile on my face this morning: )
I know what you all are talking about when you mention the violent mood swings. Wow do I ever. I'm just on 18.75 mg right now and lowering, but boy do I ever feel the fury! Sometimes I just get SO angry at people around me or at other drivers I have to calm myself down! But it is true that my humour and my other emotions have been strong too.
I am so happy it is Friday. I can't believe how fast this week went! I've had a lot of work to do here in the office, so that made it go extra quick I guess.
I have been so exhausted lately, I really would love to try that Vitamen C stuff that the new and improved Batgirl is taking! LOL
I mean I want to work out when I get home from work but I am just so tired. I wonder could I take that and do the GNC Cleanse that I am on right now? Or would that cause some problems?
Let me know ladies!
Have a good morning!
xoElena

Hello my beauties!

I just went crazzaay looking up all kinds of information on Vitimins. I'm going to go out on my lunch break and buy some. I just wonder if they will interfere with the cleanser I am on. And does the cleanser decrease the accuracy of the birth control pill? All these questions! I guess I better ask the sales person if they know! And I can't believe how much I read that said exercise was so important for so many reasons. I never knew it could help with so many ailments. I'm trying to keep up my exercise to 3 times a week minimum. But again I have been so tired! Hopefully these vitamins will give me the boost I need!
Blabbering again, wow I just don't stop! LOL But I feel that these vitamins could really help me. That's got me smiling.

xo Elena

HIYAS Girls and Guy(s) hehe I have no time to be doing this right now but I did stop in and sort of skim read each post but I am goin to sit later and read!!!

just one quick quest? what is this? http://www.healthy-sunshine.com/hy-c.htm?

jami

Hello, all -- I just found this Web site that lists the indications and side effects of a very large list of natural supplements and it's really helpful (to me at least):

http://personal.healingalt.com/safety-guidelines.shtml


Jami, that's one vitamin supplement recommended by the woman who is the moderator for the Withdrawal and Recovery Group on Yahoo (she posted here earlier up) and I've been taking it since Wed. and have felt a lot of energy since then. So I posted the link where I bought mine in case any of you want to look into it.

Sara