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mourningperson,
You are going to make it. I know it is hard to see right now, but there will be an end to your suffering WITHOUT suicide. You can have your life back. People live good lives, and you can too. You remember what it was like before all of this. You can get there again.
It's not quick. And it's not easy. But we are going to stick around throughout it all and have a big party when you make it (you will). It will be so worth it, like a new sunrise.
So, I have more questions:
1. Have you tried opening up an effexor capsule yet?
2. Can you get some empty gelcaps from the healthfood store?
3. What time do you usually take Klonopin and what time do you usually take Ambien?
4. Can you describe your sleep?
5. What sort of Amino Acids do you take?
I know that isolation feeling. I haven't mentioned it, but when my wife went through depression, I did as well. I think that may be why I'm so supportive. The only difference was that I didn't go on any meds, which was very hard. I don't know if it was a good idea or not. She coped better during the depression with the meds, but then she had to deal with getting off of them, which wasn't so bad with the taper method. So I'm not completely 'anti-meds', but I do think there needs to be better 'exit plans' from our docs.
Anyway, I hate that feeling of being in a fishbowl, the whole world seemingly moving on around you. It's just an illusion though. How you feel is not how it really is.
There is a little hole, a light at the end of the tunnel. It may be a long tunnel, but there is a light. You need to stay focused on that light. Everytime you feel slightly better than before, think of that light as getting closer, the circle getting a little bigger. Progress is your motivation and reward, setbacks are merely challenges to laugh at.
Please answer my questions above. I look forward to hearing from you, sweetheart!
You are going to make it. I know it is hard to see right now, but there will be an end to your suffering WITHOUT suicide. You can have your life back. People live good lives, and you can too. You remember what it was like before all of this. You can get there again.
It's not quick. And it's not easy. But we are going to stick around throughout it all and have a big party when you make it (you will). It will be so worth it, like a new sunrise.
So, I have more questions:
1. Have you tried opening up an effexor capsule yet?
2. Can you get some empty gelcaps from the healthfood store?
3. What time do you usually take Klonopin and what time do you usually take Ambien?
4. Can you describe your sleep?
5. What sort of Amino Acids do you take?
I know that isolation feeling. I haven't mentioned it, but when my wife went through depression, I did as well. I think that may be why I'm so supportive. The only difference was that I didn't go on any meds, which was very hard. I don't know if it was a good idea or not. She coped better during the depression with the meds, but then she had to deal with getting off of them, which wasn't so bad with the taper method. So I'm not completely 'anti-meds', but I do think there needs to be better 'exit plans' from our docs.
Anyway, I hate that feeling of being in a fishbowl, the whole world seemingly moving on around you. It's just an illusion though. How you feel is not how it really is.
There is a little hole, a light at the end of the tunnel. It may be a long tunnel, but there is a light. You need to stay focused on that light. Everytime you feel slightly better than before, think of that light as getting closer, the circle getting a little bigger. Progress is your motivation and reward, setbacks are merely challenges to laugh at.
Please answer my questions above. I look forward to hearing from you, sweetheart!
mikemo last decade
Dear Mikemo,
here are the answers,
1. Yes, my husband and I opened a capsule the other day when I first told him about your method - he noted the diff. in sizes of the beads.
2. I can get empty gelcaps.
3. I take one Ambien right before bed, the Klonopin I take at any time, depending when I'm having a meltdown.
The past 2 nights or so, I took 2-3, .5 mg before bed, with the Ambien and with 2 Fioricet, as I had developed a massive headache due to crying so much. Quite a cocktail. It blessedly knocked me out and put me into the drugged state that I've been in for 2 days.
4. Under 'normal' conditions, I'm completely reliant on Ambien and sublingual melatonin for sleep. This works without any other additions of meds, if I don't oversleep and have a semi-normal day, which for me is getting out of bed and doing little chores.
5. As far as the Amino Acids, I might have got that wrong.
I started a program called 'Label Me Sane' on Oct. 12. It's for people trying to get off of anti dep. and benzos. The main items are pharmaceutical grade Omega 3 and a 'whey protein isolate that contains Immunocal® which raises Glutathione levels'.
It was costly, but I needed something to 'get started'. I figured I could buy the items from other sources once I was on my feet more.
In case you or anyone else is interested the website is:
http://www.labelmesane.com/index.htm
I purposely didn't take any Klonopin last night, and as I said, hadn't been taking it regularly until the past few days. I'm going to try and not take it at all unless it's a real emergency.
It's bad enough having to worry about getting off of the Effexor without being hooked on a benzo also.
Although I hate having to stay alive (sorry), I'm going to keep on trying to get better. Coming across you and this forum, is the tenuous thread that is helping me make the effort.
Mandy, my husband has stood steadfastly by my side and I wouldn't have made it this far without him.
I had finally felt so isolated with my loss of hope, that I couldn't even talk to him the past couple of days, except to utter a word here and there. He asked if he had done something to make me angry. I told him 'no' - and felt so, so terrible that I was dragging him down with me.
That was part of the reasoning why I felt that he'd be better of without me. He is such an optimistic, well -adjusted man and I'm just the opposite. I feel so sorry that he ended up with a mess like me.
I also feel that I should say at this point, that something occurred recently that has served to encourage me embracing death.
On August 15, my little sister (46), who had been an alcoholic, died of liver failure. (she was my only sibling).
My mother had taken her in because she had turned yellow, but we were sure they would 'fix' the problem, then send her home with admonishments to stop drinking.
We were actually happy she had to go to ER, because now she would have to listen to professionals tell her she had to quit, as we had tried to help her through the years, to no avail.
When they told us she wasn't going to make it, we didn't believe it.
She was the sweetest person I have ever known and we were very close.
I can't help my feelings of wanting to be with her.
Of course, then I go through the roller coaster of wondering, what if I go to 'hell' instead? What if she really isn't 'there' any more, what if there isn't a 'there', and on and on.......
Sorry this is so long. And again I don't know if this is appropriate stuff for this forum.
But it's all a part of everything.
Mikemo, I'm going to print out your instructions today for my husband and he's going to handle the whole thing, as my brain is mush. He's very mathmatical and methodical, so he's perfect for this.
One other question, I take 2 75 mg. tablets. I take one around noon and one in the late afternoon, evening.
Even though they are the extended release, I started doing this because I thought it help me not to have headaches. What is your take on this?
Does your afore described method of bead splitting still apply to my 2 75 mg. capsules?
I can't thank you enough for your caring..
mp
here are the answers,
1. Yes, my husband and I opened a capsule the other day when I first told him about your method - he noted the diff. in sizes of the beads.
2. I can get empty gelcaps.
3. I take one Ambien right before bed, the Klonopin I take at any time, depending when I'm having a meltdown.
The past 2 nights or so, I took 2-3, .5 mg before bed, with the Ambien and with 2 Fioricet, as I had developed a massive headache due to crying so much. Quite a cocktail. It blessedly knocked me out and put me into the drugged state that I've been in for 2 days.
4. Under 'normal' conditions, I'm completely reliant on Ambien and sublingual melatonin for sleep. This works without any other additions of meds, if I don't oversleep and have a semi-normal day, which for me is getting out of bed and doing little chores.
5. As far as the Amino Acids, I might have got that wrong.
I started a program called 'Label Me Sane' on Oct. 12. It's for people trying to get off of anti dep. and benzos. The main items are pharmaceutical grade Omega 3 and a 'whey protein isolate that contains Immunocal® which raises Glutathione levels'.
It was costly, but I needed something to 'get started'. I figured I could buy the items from other sources once I was on my feet more.
In case you or anyone else is interested the website is:
http://www.labelmesane.com/index.htm
I purposely didn't take any Klonopin last night, and as I said, hadn't been taking it regularly until the past few days. I'm going to try and not take it at all unless it's a real emergency.
It's bad enough having to worry about getting off of the Effexor without being hooked on a benzo also.
Although I hate having to stay alive (sorry), I'm going to keep on trying to get better. Coming across you and this forum, is the tenuous thread that is helping me make the effort.
Mandy, my husband has stood steadfastly by my side and I wouldn't have made it this far without him.
I had finally felt so isolated with my loss of hope, that I couldn't even talk to him the past couple of days, except to utter a word here and there. He asked if he had done something to make me angry. I told him 'no' - and felt so, so terrible that I was dragging him down with me.
That was part of the reasoning why I felt that he'd be better of without me. He is such an optimistic, well -adjusted man and I'm just the opposite. I feel so sorry that he ended up with a mess like me.
I also feel that I should say at this point, that something occurred recently that has served to encourage me embracing death.
On August 15, my little sister (46), who had been an alcoholic, died of liver failure. (she was my only sibling).
My mother had taken her in because she had turned yellow, but we were sure they would 'fix' the problem, then send her home with admonishments to stop drinking.
We were actually happy she had to go to ER, because now she would have to listen to professionals tell her she had to quit, as we had tried to help her through the years, to no avail.
When they told us she wasn't going to make it, we didn't believe it.
She was the sweetest person I have ever known and we were very close.
I can't help my feelings of wanting to be with her.
Of course, then I go through the roller coaster of wondering, what if I go to 'hell' instead? What if she really isn't 'there' any more, what if there isn't a 'there', and on and on.......
Sorry this is so long. And again I don't know if this is appropriate stuff for this forum.
But it's all a part of everything.
Mikemo, I'm going to print out your instructions today for my husband and he's going to handle the whole thing, as my brain is mush. He's very mathmatical and methodical, so he's perfect for this.
One other question, I take 2 75 mg. tablets. I take one around noon and one in the late afternoon, evening.
Even though they are the extended release, I started doing this because I thought it help me not to have headaches. What is your take on this?
Does your afore described method of bead splitting still apply to my 2 75 mg. capsules?
I can't thank you enough for your caring..
mp
mourningperson last decade
That's great news about 2 75mg capsules rather than a single 150. It is much easier to deal with the splitting of 75s.
You will still draw a line 3.75 inches long, but now each 1/4' segment is worth 5mg. What we will do is taper your evening dose down gradually and at the same time, start taking it earlier and earlier until you are taking both pills in the morning.
This is going to be very specific, so you'll need to stay faithful to the plan.
As soon as you get those gelcaps, you'll need an hour or so to make the doses for the week. Get a pill minder box to put a weeks worth in.
Assuming you've been taking 150mg up until now, you will start day one with 130mg. Go like this:
noon evening
75 55
75 70
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 45
75 60
75 55
75 55
75 55
75 55
75 55
That's two weeks worth. Gradually move the evening dose back in the day over these two weeks to get in at noon at the same time as the 75mg.
Go here if you need more descriptions of 'how' to split the capsules into those weird doses. I've covered it pretty well here:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/102450/
Now here's my disclaimer: I'm not a doctor. I am not giving you advise on WHAT to do, I am only giving you instructions on HOW to do. You are making your own decision whether you want to do this, and any change in medication should be consulted with a qualified physician.
In two weeks you should be taking both pills at noon. Post a comment every day or so, because, well, I like ya!
You will still draw a line 3.75 inches long, but now each 1/4' segment is worth 5mg. What we will do is taper your evening dose down gradually and at the same time, start taking it earlier and earlier until you are taking both pills in the morning.
This is going to be very specific, so you'll need to stay faithful to the plan.
As soon as you get those gelcaps, you'll need an hour or so to make the doses for the week. Get a pill minder box to put a weeks worth in.
Assuming you've been taking 150mg up until now, you will start day one with 130mg. Go like this:
noon evening
75 55
75 70
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 65
75 45
75 60
75 55
75 55
75 55
75 55
75 55
That's two weeks worth. Gradually move the evening dose back in the day over these two weeks to get in at noon at the same time as the 75mg.
Go here if you need more descriptions of 'how' to split the capsules into those weird doses. I've covered it pretty well here:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/102450/
Now here's my disclaimer: I'm not a doctor. I am not giving you advise on WHAT to do, I am only giving you instructions on HOW to do. You are making your own decision whether you want to do this, and any change in medication should be consulted with a qualified physician.
In two weeks you should be taking both pills at noon. Post a comment every day or so, because, well, I like ya!
mikemo last decade
Hi there, my name is emma and i live in the UK. i ahve been on this horrid drug for 6 years now. i was initially prescribed it to help with a phobia i have suffered life long with - emetophobia - fear of vomiting. (as you can imagine, the nausea associated with E withdrawal is not really what i want nor can cope with) - had i been told about this, i NEVER would have taken them.
Anyway, some postivie news is that i successfully got down to 9mg from 75mg 2 years ago (i gave up coz i felt so awful though) - but this time im going to get through and have the help of my doctor, prescribing me some prozac to help right at the end etc.
A really really useful withdrawal chart i used and felt hardly any withdrawal was at the following link - oh im not allowed to include a link - doh - please email me if youd like it - or is there anyway i can post it?
clinical-depression . co . uk
/ anti_depressants
/withdrawal/dosages
if you click on the index, it also has some really great info.
i went armed with info to my doctors this morning and am going to try to start withdrawal again. this time though i am going to take the final stages VERY slowly and take 20mg prozac due to the long half life.
reading some of the positive stories has been really great - we have to keep them coming!
Ems x
Anyway, some postivie news is that i successfully got down to 9mg from 75mg 2 years ago (i gave up coz i felt so awful though) - but this time im going to get through and have the help of my doctor, prescribing me some prozac to help right at the end etc.
A really really useful withdrawal chart i used and felt hardly any withdrawal was at the following link - oh im not allowed to include a link - doh - please email me if youd like it - or is there anyway i can post it?
clinical-depression . co . uk
/ anti_depressants
/withdrawal/dosages
if you click on the index, it also has some really great info.
i went armed with info to my doctors this morning and am going to try to start withdrawal again. this time though i am going to take the final stages VERY slowly and take 20mg prozac due to the long half life.
reading some of the positive stories has been really great - we have to keep them coming!
Ems x
ejb199jsd last decade
hey there, me again. just been reading some more posts and read about someone who actually got the flu and it helped with the detox. this reminded me of an interesting blog i read where this guy suggested the following:
- sauna/steamroom sessions each day and if you can then a hot bath or hot shower followed by cold blasts of water to mimic a fever
- body brushing daily - apparently a third of our toxins are held in the skin
- exercise - helps with sweating it out
has anyone tried any of these?
ems x
- sauna/steamroom sessions each day and if you can then a hot bath or hot shower followed by cold blasts of water to mimic a fever
- body brushing daily - apparently a third of our toxins are held in the skin
- exercise - helps with sweating it out
has anyone tried any of these?
ems x
ejb199jsd last decade
Dearest Mourningperson
Im so glad you have such a wonderful supporting husband by your side. Hes not going to be better off without you because he loves you so very much and wants to be with you and one day you are going to feel a spark in your life again. You no we dont give up on people we love.
I am not very worldly with information or advice but I am very caring and want to see you find the light in the tunnel again. You may not realise it yet (you will when the light in the tunnel becomes a hole that you can see brightly) but writing about your sister, her passing, the alcoholism throughout her life, your deep longing to be with her and such pain its causing you will help other people. I no this must be so hard for you but want to say you will make it, people are going to read your starting posts and follow them through and its going to give them the courage and dedication to not give up. x
Mourningperson I will be sticking around for your party no matter how long it takes. Mikemo has great advice and for me just finding this site has put the spark back in my life.
Horary I finally managed to split that little sucker of a capsule. Im on my way. Mikemo today is day 1 of 112mgs. Ye ha what a feeling. Took me awhile but time is no issue for me at present.
Emma
No I dont believe getting the flu will help you detox, the person you read about I think is Sweetlo and she had finished her effexor tapering when she got the flu but you still can get allot of withdrawals once you are down to 0 effexor. Everyone is different so some might need a few weeks to feel great again and some might need a few months or even a year.
If you have a fear of vomiting then thats damn right horrible to be on effexor because its a big effect going on it and getting off it.
If you go to the tapering method Mikemo has come up with and maybe try an anti nausea medication I dont believe you will need to be too concerned about the scary withdrawal of vomiting. Click this link to get to the tapering method http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/102450/
Good luck Emma
P.S. Mikemo I just read the rules, is it ok for me to tell people on other sites and the people I have already handed out your tapering method to? Sorry I should have asked this in the beginning. I always refer people back to this site and tell them the tapering method is what you have created. Hope I haven't overstepped the mark.
Im so glad you have such a wonderful supporting husband by your side. Hes not going to be better off without you because he loves you so very much and wants to be with you and one day you are going to feel a spark in your life again. You no we dont give up on people we love.
I am not very worldly with information or advice but I am very caring and want to see you find the light in the tunnel again. You may not realise it yet (you will when the light in the tunnel becomes a hole that you can see brightly) but writing about your sister, her passing, the alcoholism throughout her life, your deep longing to be with her and such pain its causing you will help other people. I no this must be so hard for you but want to say you will make it, people are going to read your starting posts and follow them through and its going to give them the courage and dedication to not give up. x
Mourningperson I will be sticking around for your party no matter how long it takes. Mikemo has great advice and for me just finding this site has put the spark back in my life.
Horary I finally managed to split that little sucker of a capsule. Im on my way. Mikemo today is day 1 of 112mgs. Ye ha what a feeling. Took me awhile but time is no issue for me at present.
Emma
No I dont believe getting the flu will help you detox, the person you read about I think is Sweetlo and she had finished her effexor tapering when she got the flu but you still can get allot of withdrawals once you are down to 0 effexor. Everyone is different so some might need a few weeks to feel great again and some might need a few months or even a year.
If you have a fear of vomiting then thats damn right horrible to be on effexor because its a big effect going on it and getting off it.
If you go to the tapering method Mikemo has come up with and maybe try an anti nausea medication I dont believe you will need to be too concerned about the scary withdrawal of vomiting. Click this link to get to the tapering method http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/102450/
Good luck Emma
P.S. Mikemo I just read the rules, is it ok for me to tell people on other sites and the people I have already handed out your tapering method to? Sorry I should have asked this in the beginning. I always refer people back to this site and tell them the tapering method is what you have created. Hope I haven't overstepped the mark.
MandyC last decade
Hi Ems x and welcome!
I actually am the one who wrote the post re: having the flu. It helped for a little while, probaby because it turned into bronchitis and I was in bed all of the time.
I have been off of Effexor since October 10 but still am suffering with restless leg sydrome (I bought something for that at the healthfood store yesterday). I also still have mild brain zabs and vertigo, usually mid-day through the evening. I have been having wild mood swings.
Mourningperson,
Hang in there, I wanted to get drunk (I've been sober 21 months) and/ or hurt myself the past week. Yesterday was the first day I started feeling positive again. When I get down, I imagine myself as a teeter-totter (I know I'll go up again, meaning my attitude will improve). As silly as it may seem, my cats have been a great deal of support as I can't really snap at them for anything. lol. Plus we just had the wildfires and it makes me try to put life in perspective. We ARE VERY strong. Think of how many others that are out there who haven't seen a forum like this and continue to suffer. At least we are getting over the worst part, right? Hang in there!
MikeMo, Thank you again for your support and advice. It means so much to have someone who isn't under the influence of this horrible drug to help! You rock!!
Hugs,
SweetLo
San Diego
I actually am the one who wrote the post re: having the flu. It helped for a little while, probaby because it turned into bronchitis and I was in bed all of the time.
I have been off of Effexor since October 10 but still am suffering with restless leg sydrome (I bought something for that at the healthfood store yesterday). I also still have mild brain zabs and vertigo, usually mid-day through the evening. I have been having wild mood swings.
Mourningperson,
Hang in there, I wanted to get drunk (I've been sober 21 months) and/ or hurt myself the past week. Yesterday was the first day I started feeling positive again. When I get down, I imagine myself as a teeter-totter (I know I'll go up again, meaning my attitude will improve). As silly as it may seem, my cats have been a great deal of support as I can't really snap at them for anything. lol. Plus we just had the wildfires and it makes me try to put life in perspective. We ARE VERY strong. Think of how many others that are out there who haven't seen a forum like this and continue to suffer. At least we are getting over the worst part, right? Hang in there!
MikeMo, Thank you again for your support and advice. It means so much to have someone who isn't under the influence of this horrible drug to help! You rock!!
Hugs,
SweetLo
San Diego
SweetLo last decade
Mikemo and everyone,
I haven't stopped tapering yet because I'm still feeling badly.
I was told to get 'stable' before titrating down.
The thing that I don't understand is that the whole month of August and part of Sept., while I was on the same dose I'm at now, I didn't feel this bad.
As soon as my doctor tried to bring me down from 150 to 112.5, everything fell apart - and so I went back up, until I felt better.
I've been back up now for 1.5 months and never got back to feeling the same as before we tried to bring me down.
I just physically feel yucky all over - off and on nausea, hot/cold flashes, headaches, achiness, etc...
Now, my mental status has deteriorated and I can't figure out why?
Is it JUST because I'm on Effexor - I've read that it can cause suicidal ideation in adults as well as teens.
Is it because the drop down 1.5 months ago sent everything haywire?
Is it because I'm having to take some Klonopin - which I've read can exacerbate depression, or is it because I don't take it everyday, and am having withdrawal effects from it, on the days that I don't take it?
I know these are a lot of questions to throw out and realize that no one can really answer them - but was just wondering if any of it rang a bell with any one else?
Thanks for your help,
mp
I haven't stopped tapering yet because I'm still feeling badly.
I was told to get 'stable' before titrating down.
The thing that I don't understand is that the whole month of August and part of Sept., while I was on the same dose I'm at now, I didn't feel this bad.
As soon as my doctor tried to bring me down from 150 to 112.5, everything fell apart - and so I went back up, until I felt better.
I've been back up now for 1.5 months and never got back to feeling the same as before we tried to bring me down.
I just physically feel yucky all over - off and on nausea, hot/cold flashes, headaches, achiness, etc...
Now, my mental status has deteriorated and I can't figure out why?
Is it JUST because I'm on Effexor - I've read that it can cause suicidal ideation in adults as well as teens.
Is it because the drop down 1.5 months ago sent everything haywire?
Is it because I'm having to take some Klonopin - which I've read can exacerbate depression, or is it because I don't take it everyday, and am having withdrawal effects from it, on the days that I don't take it?
I know these are a lot of questions to throw out and realize that no one can really answer them - but was just wondering if any of it rang a bell with any one else?
Thanks for your help,
mp
mourningperson last decade
thanks for your replies guys. i havent even started trying to taper but just the thought stresses me out!
the vomit phobia is what im so worried about because i know how nuaseas and sick i felt last time i did this.
A few years ago i tried taking some beads out of my capsule but that evening i was really ill, diarrohea and dry heaving all night - it was horrible and i was like it for 3 days - im not sure if its coz i took beads out,coz i had a bug or just my mind playing tricks, i.e i had removed some beads and just convinved myself i was ill (anxiety sets my IBS off and then when i get diarrohea, i can become convinced that this time its a bug and not jsut ibs playing up)
i didnt follow any bead reduction programme though so i will def have a look. i did read somewhere though about all the beads being diff - with the extended release ones? Anyone know anything about this?
ems xx
the vomit phobia is what im so worried about because i know how nuaseas and sick i felt last time i did this.
A few years ago i tried taking some beads out of my capsule but that evening i was really ill, diarrohea and dry heaving all night - it was horrible and i was like it for 3 days - im not sure if its coz i took beads out,coz i had a bug or just my mind playing tricks, i.e i had removed some beads and just convinved myself i was ill (anxiety sets my IBS off and then when i get diarrohea, i can become convinced that this time its a bug and not jsut ibs playing up)
i didnt follow any bead reduction programme though so i will def have a look. i did read somewhere though about all the beads being diff - with the extended release ones? Anyone know anything about this?
ems xx
ejb199jsd last decade
Hi everyone, haven't been on in a while.
Emma--I suffered with the vomit phobia too, and although I had some rough moments during detox, I made it through without vomiting once. I also have to say that my phobia has not returned since I've been off Effexor. This is due to cognitive/behavioral therapy, which you can do without a psychiatrist. It involves pretty much facing your fear. If you're afraid of vomiting, you watch movies where people vomit (try 28 Days or Jackass) or visit a hospital, things like that. It sucks to face the thing your most fear, but it worked for me and enabled me to get off the Effexor.
I'm hearing everyone talk about doctors from whom we all got Effexor and I hope that in addition to medication there is some therapy involved, particularly when there are suicidal tendencies. Meds can help, but talking things through with a professional can really do wonders.
Emma--I suffered with the vomit phobia too, and although I had some rough moments during detox, I made it through without vomiting once. I also have to say that my phobia has not returned since I've been off Effexor. This is due to cognitive/behavioral therapy, which you can do without a psychiatrist. It involves pretty much facing your fear. If you're afraid of vomiting, you watch movies where people vomit (try 28 Days or Jackass) or visit a hospital, things like that. It sucks to face the thing your most fear, but it worked for me and enabled me to get off the Effexor.
I'm hearing everyone talk about doctors from whom we all got Effexor and I hope that in addition to medication there is some therapy involved, particularly when there are suicidal tendencies. Meds can help, but talking things through with a professional can really do wonders.
BeckyD last decade
I am fuming right now as I was watching Desperate Housewives and an Effexor XR commercial came on!! They made it sound like it was the best thing since sliced bread and the ONLY thing they said about withdrawal is, 'Don't stop taking Effexor XR without first consulting your Dr.'. I wish we could make them say, 'You will have to go through the gates of hell, run through hell, touch the devil on the ass and run back out of hell before you will have Effexor XR out of your life'.
SweetLo last decade
I wish we could make them say, 'You will have to go through the gates of hell, run through hell, touch the devil on the ass and run back out of hell before you will have Effexor XR out of your life'.
Too funny Sweet!
Penny
Too funny Sweet!
Penny
Penny S last decade
Just wanted to check in to say that I still haven't begun to taper down (150 mg).
I've still been feeling physically and mentally lousy enough, that I haven't made a move. I can't bear to feel worse than I'm feeling now.
On the other hand, I don't want to keep this drug in my system any longer. Not sure what to do.....
mp
I've still been feeling physically and mentally lousy enough, that I haven't made a move. I can't bear to feel worse than I'm feeling now.
On the other hand, I don't want to keep this drug in my system any longer. Not sure what to do.....
mp
mourningperson last decade
MP
It took me a few weeks before I got the guts to taper down, fear, fear & more fear but after I did my first splitting the capsule (My hands shook terribly) I realised it wasn't as fearful as I imagined it to be. I have been on 112mgs for more than the time I should have because fear jumps straight back into my head. I'm cool with the new dosage because I no how to do it but I'm ready to taper down again. My math is crap but I will get there it's just a bit of mind work for me.
My suggestion is because your husband is right by your side get him to do up a weeks worth of capsules at the dose Mikemo said and you can either watch him do the splitting if it helps you or your husband can give you your meds each time without you knowing what mgs you are taking. MP you can do it and with the help of your husband you will not fail! No matter how crap you feel each day say one sentence to yourself I WILL SUCCEED, I WILL NOT FAIL and dont fight with the other voices in your head over ride them and keep telling yourself you will succeed.
The only question I can answer is yes effexor does in some of us cause suicidal thoughts, constant daydreaming, planning etc.
I havent been online for awhile as Ive been a little unwell. Im still doing better than I imagined and Ive worked out if I can stick to the taper plan I will be free of effexor by mid January 08. Roll on Jan!
My main withdrawals at present are brain zaps, lost in space feelings, horrific nightmares, stabbing pains in chest, hot flushes only, bad diarrhea, minor headaches so far, mild nausea. The list may seem bad but Im coping.
Best wishes to all
MandyC
It took me a few weeks before I got the guts to taper down, fear, fear & more fear but after I did my first splitting the capsule (My hands shook terribly) I realised it wasn't as fearful as I imagined it to be. I have been on 112mgs for more than the time I should have because fear jumps straight back into my head. I'm cool with the new dosage because I no how to do it but I'm ready to taper down again. My math is crap but I will get there it's just a bit of mind work for me.
My suggestion is because your husband is right by your side get him to do up a weeks worth of capsules at the dose Mikemo said and you can either watch him do the splitting if it helps you or your husband can give you your meds each time without you knowing what mgs you are taking. MP you can do it and with the help of your husband you will not fail! No matter how crap you feel each day say one sentence to yourself I WILL SUCCEED, I WILL NOT FAIL and dont fight with the other voices in your head over ride them and keep telling yourself you will succeed.
The only question I can answer is yes effexor does in some of us cause suicidal thoughts, constant daydreaming, planning etc.
I havent been online for awhile as Ive been a little unwell. Im still doing better than I imagined and Ive worked out if I can stick to the taper plan I will be free of effexor by mid January 08. Roll on Jan!
My main withdrawals at present are brain zaps, lost in space feelings, horrific nightmares, stabbing pains in chest, hot flushes only, bad diarrhea, minor headaches so far, mild nausea. The list may seem bad but Im coping.
Best wishes to all
MandyC
MandyC last decade
Hi Mandy,
your post came at a real good time for me.
I went to (forced myself) a meditation/hynotherapy group this evening and the leader opened my mind to how I've been holding onto all this fear about never getting well, and being sick and depressed the rest of my life.
She tried to show me how my conscious mind keeps telling me those thoughts, but that my subconscious mind is ready to help me heal. She gave me a technique to help me from telling myself constantly that I'm a sick for life, and how to visualize pulling out all of the old bad stuff that's in me and moving on.
My intellect always battles me on these types of therapies, but I'm going to try and not let my mind keep convincing me that I'll never get well, and work on some of the healing techniques she taught us.
I drove home feeling more hopeful and a little stronger than I've felt in awhile.
My husband doesn't want to take responsibility for cutting down the doses, especially since I've been so bad.
So we found a compounding pharmacist, and she's going to make up the capsules in 10% taper increments. I'm going to start as soon as they're ready. I really appreciate Mikemo's help, but I understand my hubbie's trepidation because of my major sensitivity to this *&%#! med.
My psychiatrist wants me to take Prozac along with the taper to minimize any side effects, but I'm not sure whether to do that or not.
I believe it might help and have heard of this being done, but am reluctant to put another med into the mix.
Prozac will be easy to get off of, but I'm so sick of anti depressants being in my system.....
I'm glad you're doing better than you thought you would, and I'd like to hear how it proceeds for you.
With love,
Alexa
your post came at a real good time for me.
I went to (forced myself) a meditation/hynotherapy group this evening and the leader opened my mind to how I've been holding onto all this fear about never getting well, and being sick and depressed the rest of my life.
She tried to show me how my conscious mind keeps telling me those thoughts, but that my subconscious mind is ready to help me heal. She gave me a technique to help me from telling myself constantly that I'm a sick for life, and how to visualize pulling out all of the old bad stuff that's in me and moving on.
My intellect always battles me on these types of therapies, but I'm going to try and not let my mind keep convincing me that I'll never get well, and work on some of the healing techniques she taught us.
I drove home feeling more hopeful and a little stronger than I've felt in awhile.
My husband doesn't want to take responsibility for cutting down the doses, especially since I've been so bad.
So we found a compounding pharmacist, and she's going to make up the capsules in 10% taper increments. I'm going to start as soon as they're ready. I really appreciate Mikemo's help, but I understand my hubbie's trepidation because of my major sensitivity to this *&%#! med.
My psychiatrist wants me to take Prozac along with the taper to minimize any side effects, but I'm not sure whether to do that or not.
I believe it might help and have heard of this being done, but am reluctant to put another med into the mix.
Prozac will be easy to get off of, but I'm so sick of anti depressants being in my system.....
I'm glad you're doing better than you thought you would, and I'd like to hear how it proceeds for you.
With love,
Alexa
mourningperson last decade
Hi All, just wanted to say I weaned myself and have not taken the drug for like maybe two months now. It was horrible at first, but the key is to ABSOLUTELY talk to your doctor first, and to definitely wean SLOWLY!!!
I was at 225 last January, and I took myself down to 150. In May, I went from 150 to 75. IN August, I started doing 75 one day, then 37.5 the next day. Then about 3 weeks later, I did 37.5 every other day.
I had some problems, with itching, and very bad mood swings, and I am getting migraines more often, but the itching and bad moods have gone away.
Believe in yourself to get well, and take your time in weaning!
Good luck!
I was at 225 last January, and I took myself down to 150. In May, I went from 150 to 75. IN August, I started doing 75 one day, then 37.5 the next day. Then about 3 weeks later, I did 37.5 every other day.
I had some problems, with itching, and very bad mood swings, and I am getting migraines more often, but the itching and bad moods have gone away.
Believe in yourself to get well, and take your time in weaning!
Good luck!
manic mommy last decade
Hi manic mommy and mandy,
could you describe any negative symptoms you had while ON Effexor?
What made you want to get off in the first place.
I started out feeling 'o.k' on it, except for some nausea and no appetite, I even had a couple of weeks of feeling EXCELLENT, and thought that the med was 'kicking in'. But as soon as I tried to taper, I had THE worst migraines! So, I went back up to 150, which was almost a month ago, and I have been rotten ever since......
I feel weak, sickly, headachey, not much appetite and mostly quite depressed. In other words, I feel worse than before I started the Effexor.
I was just wondering if this was all in my head, (as I'm not even tapering yet), or if others had experienced feeling 'bad' physically or mentally on it?
Thanks!
mp
could you describe any negative symptoms you had while ON Effexor?
What made you want to get off in the first place.
I started out feeling 'o.k' on it, except for some nausea and no appetite, I even had a couple of weeks of feeling EXCELLENT, and thought that the med was 'kicking in'. But as soon as I tried to taper, I had THE worst migraines! So, I went back up to 150, which was almost a month ago, and I have been rotten ever since......
I feel weak, sickly, headachey, not much appetite and mostly quite depressed. In other words, I feel worse than before I started the Effexor.
I was just wondering if this was all in my head, (as I'm not even tapering yet), or if others had experienced feeling 'bad' physically or mentally on it?
Thanks!
mp
mourningperson last decade
Hi MP--I think I went off it because I was tired of being dependant upon a drug. And I didn't know if effexor was a cause of my weight gain. I have been experiencing more migraines than usual, and my doc is prescribing topaxin or something like that for the migraines.
Negative symptoms on effexor--I think I was just flatlined. I don't know. I was on it for like five years. Time for me to get off. Good luck!
Negative symptoms on effexor--I think I was just flatlined. I don't know. I was on it for like five years. Time for me to get off. Good luck!
manic mommy last decade
Hi manic mommy,
I just wanted to let you know that I was told by my doctor that Effexor would cause the 'opposite of weight gain' - which it did for me. I had absolutely no appetite (and nauseau) and have to force myself to eat.
However, I have read MANY posts where people say that it did cause them to gain weight!
I also wanted to tell you, that I've started taking a 'pharmaceutical grade/high potency' fish oil - which are the Omega 3's.
I'm reading about how there is a DEFINITE connection to depression and the lack of this substance in our brain.
I was also told that it can help our headaches.
Just some info I came across.
Love,
mp
I just wanted to let you know that I was told by my doctor that Effexor would cause the 'opposite of weight gain' - which it did for me. I had absolutely no appetite (and nauseau) and have to force myself to eat.
However, I have read MANY posts where people say that it did cause them to gain weight!
I also wanted to tell you, that I've started taking a 'pharmaceutical grade/high potency' fish oil - which are the Omega 3's.
I'm reading about how there is a DEFINITE connection to depression and the lack of this substance in our brain.
I was also told that it can help our headaches.
Just some info I came across.
Love,
mp
mourningperson last decade
I'm new to this post and find your stories very interesting, so glad I'm not the only one with effexor problems. I was on 150mg for 7 years, this last August I decided enough was enough. At first effexor help my axiety and got me back on my feet but I was suffering with headaches (sometimes really bad ones) 5 days out of 7. My Dr. said it was stress. I also had vertigo day after day, again, Dr. said it was stress. I had hot flashes that were unbearable, this time he said it was menopause (I'm 53). This past August I decided it was time to lower my dose to see if any of these symtoms could be caused by Effexor. Well guess what, I am now at 37.5 and have no more hot flashed, no more headaches. My concern now is I feel really bad. I weird feelings in my head, mostly in my forehead and feel dizzy at times. It's been 2 weeks now at 37.5 and I'm wondering if these are withdrwals symtoms or what. It worse this week, also my concentration is not so good. Any comments....
diser last decade
Dear diser,
I didn't have any headaches until I got on Effexor. When I tried to taper too much (from 150 to 112.5) I got the WORST headaches of my life. I had to get injections of Dialudid - which is like morphine, and that didn't always get rid of them. So, I was advised to back up to my original dose, and then to taper more gradually - only at 10% increments every week to 10 days (or more than that, if needed).
I have the major heat flushes and wondered if it was due to menopause (I'm 53 also) - but, I've since validated that these are solely related to the Effexor - and are quite common with people on Effexor.
I feel 'sick' and 'weak' in general, even though I eat fairly well and get some excercise. I feel dizzy. The weird feelings in your head, sound like 'brain zaps'. These are a VERY common withdrawal symptom of Effexor. I have been on just about every anti depressant, and I've only had that particular symptom with Effexor. It is well documented to cause 'brain zaps'.
Even the Wyeth pharmaceutical website (the people that manufacture Effexor) list brain zaps as a side effect.
The advice that was given to me, and that I believe is the right way to go, is to go back to the dosage where you felt 'stabe'. Once you feel stable, only taper at the 10% increments, as slowly as need be, to minimize the size effects.
It might make the process take longer, but it is worth it not to feel totally crappy through the taper process.
I also thinks it's very important to bone up on your nutrition while doing this.
I'm using products from the 'label me sane' website.
The woman who started the site went through Effexor withdrawals herself, and started the company for people like us. If you can't afford her supplements, then you can find them cheaper elsewhere.
Love,
mp
I didn't have any headaches until I got on Effexor. When I tried to taper too much (from 150 to 112.5) I got the WORST headaches of my life. I had to get injections of Dialudid - which is like morphine, and that didn't always get rid of them. So, I was advised to back up to my original dose, and then to taper more gradually - only at 10% increments every week to 10 days (or more than that, if needed).
I have the major heat flushes and wondered if it was due to menopause (I'm 53 also) - but, I've since validated that these are solely related to the Effexor - and are quite common with people on Effexor.
I feel 'sick' and 'weak' in general, even though I eat fairly well and get some excercise. I feel dizzy. The weird feelings in your head, sound like 'brain zaps'. These are a VERY common withdrawal symptom of Effexor. I have been on just about every anti depressant, and I've only had that particular symptom with Effexor. It is well documented to cause 'brain zaps'.
Even the Wyeth pharmaceutical website (the people that manufacture Effexor) list brain zaps as a side effect.
The advice that was given to me, and that I believe is the right way to go, is to go back to the dosage where you felt 'stabe'. Once you feel stable, only taper at the 10% increments, as slowly as need be, to minimize the size effects.
It might make the process take longer, but it is worth it not to feel totally crappy through the taper process.
I also thinks it's very important to bone up on your nutrition while doing this.
I'm using products from the 'label me sane' website.
The woman who started the site went through Effexor withdrawals herself, and started the company for people like us. If you can't afford her supplements, then you can find them cheaper elsewhere.
Love,
mp
mourningperson last decade
Hi Alexa
I cant be happier that you have forced yourself to go a meditation group and Im so glad my post came at a great time.
From the age of 16 to now (Im 34) I have been to Physiatrists, Psychologists, Counsellors and a Rehab centre (Ive been a pot smoker since 18 and wanted the easy option to stop) through my life and I refused to believe that any of these people could help me because my mind had already created a shield that blocked this sort of therapy so it was never going to work cause I was never going to let it. I gave up hope and decided anti depressants were the miracle cure I had been waiting for (they werent). Effexor did help me in the beginning but was it because my mind wanted that option to work? I honestly cant say because I dont know. I learnt very early on that I couldnt miss a dose not one and after time my fears became so strong that I never wanted to stop Effexor so it was easier to just keep going year after year and Im now at year number 14, so sad. I have had side effects whilst taking effexor (suicidal, very depressed, very, very emotional, very bad sweats, headaches but not to severe though, allot of weight gain, no sex drive, brain zaps, high cholesterol, thyroid problems, no interest in anything in life, I have basically been a person with nothing inside/flatlined for so many years) but when you are on a drug for so long you forget reality and think oh this must be how Im meant to be. I dont know who Mandy is Alexa but I cant wait to find her and its starting.
Now a few years ago I started reading self help books and went to another physiologist (was sceptical but I didnt have the shield up) who was bloody fantastic she was using cognitive therapy with me and it did wonders but as soon as I stoped going to her I fell back into the hole. Occasionally I would keep up the reading and I felt a little better I got into more and more therapies like meditation which I never believed in but after doing it I realised it did work, I did allot of talking to myself positive talking, I brought some meditation cds and this was the start to me realising that its my own mind that can fix me so to speak. I would put up signs in my house that would say things like Mandy is a happy person, Mandy deserves to be loved etc but of course I had to fight with my mind. However once I stoped doing this (cause it is a new way of life and its not easy) I fell back into the hole again but I still knew when I was ready I can cure myself this way it was just to hard to do then.
Im now at this point, Ive found this site and I truly believe once I get off effexor I am going to be a real person with happiness. I have somehow found so much positive energy in myself that each day I get up no matter how I feel I tell myself yeah you feel a little off colour but you are happy, as well as this people will ask how I am (cause Im always crap) and my response is always yeah Im great today or I feel a little off colour but Im still happy, these people cant believe the change in me. Im starting to create my happiness through being positive and trying to flick those negative bad thoughts away. I have found a passion and that is to get off effexor and find me and Im not going to let myself fail, I may fall into a small hole but I will get out of it, I will make it, I will be happy. Its taken years to get to this point and I will succeed. Alexa I dont think any of us realise how our minds can create who we want to be. Mind power in my opinion is the best cure if we can find out how to tap into it. I believe you have started to do that by dragging yourself to the meditation group. Please dont stop going I really believe the leader of the group is right in what they say about the conscious & sub-conscious mind and look at other options as well like some books, if you dont like reading maybe the cds with books recorded on them or even a psychologist if its affordable (they cost so much in Australia but Im seeing one now and she is great). Every little bit of this sort of therapy is going to help. The sad thing is its not a quick fix which is what I have always wanted but its the right fix.
MP Im jealous I cant get a pharmacist to do up my mgs as apparently they said they arent allowed to and youre not allowed to split them etc. So I then hammered them over not helping me and walked out. Idiots what would they no.
Oh I have been meaning to pick up some Omega 3 as Ive heard so many good things about it. I like talking with you MP, Love Mandy.
Manic Mommy
Its great to hear when people like yourself come back online and tell us about your successes getting off effexor. Thank you
Diser
How quick did you go down? If you were on 150mgs and started going down in August what method did you use? It does sound like withdrawals from effexor.
My love to all
And sorry that I use so many words trying to explain myself.
x
I cant be happier that you have forced yourself to go a meditation group and Im so glad my post came at a great time.
From the age of 16 to now (Im 34) I have been to Physiatrists, Psychologists, Counsellors and a Rehab centre (Ive been a pot smoker since 18 and wanted the easy option to stop) through my life and I refused to believe that any of these people could help me because my mind had already created a shield that blocked this sort of therapy so it was never going to work cause I was never going to let it. I gave up hope and decided anti depressants were the miracle cure I had been waiting for (they werent). Effexor did help me in the beginning but was it because my mind wanted that option to work? I honestly cant say because I dont know. I learnt very early on that I couldnt miss a dose not one and after time my fears became so strong that I never wanted to stop Effexor so it was easier to just keep going year after year and Im now at year number 14, so sad. I have had side effects whilst taking effexor (suicidal, very depressed, very, very emotional, very bad sweats, headaches but not to severe though, allot of weight gain, no sex drive, brain zaps, high cholesterol, thyroid problems, no interest in anything in life, I have basically been a person with nothing inside/flatlined for so many years) but when you are on a drug for so long you forget reality and think oh this must be how Im meant to be. I dont know who Mandy is Alexa but I cant wait to find her and its starting.
Now a few years ago I started reading self help books and went to another physiologist (was sceptical but I didnt have the shield up) who was bloody fantastic she was using cognitive therapy with me and it did wonders but as soon as I stoped going to her I fell back into the hole. Occasionally I would keep up the reading and I felt a little better I got into more and more therapies like meditation which I never believed in but after doing it I realised it did work, I did allot of talking to myself positive talking, I brought some meditation cds and this was the start to me realising that its my own mind that can fix me so to speak. I would put up signs in my house that would say things like Mandy is a happy person, Mandy deserves to be loved etc but of course I had to fight with my mind. However once I stoped doing this (cause it is a new way of life and its not easy) I fell back into the hole again but I still knew when I was ready I can cure myself this way it was just to hard to do then.
Im now at this point, Ive found this site and I truly believe once I get off effexor I am going to be a real person with happiness. I have somehow found so much positive energy in myself that each day I get up no matter how I feel I tell myself yeah you feel a little off colour but you are happy, as well as this people will ask how I am (cause Im always crap) and my response is always yeah Im great today or I feel a little off colour but Im still happy, these people cant believe the change in me. Im starting to create my happiness through being positive and trying to flick those negative bad thoughts away. I have found a passion and that is to get off effexor and find me and Im not going to let myself fail, I may fall into a small hole but I will get out of it, I will make it, I will be happy. Its taken years to get to this point and I will succeed. Alexa I dont think any of us realise how our minds can create who we want to be. Mind power in my opinion is the best cure if we can find out how to tap into it. I believe you have started to do that by dragging yourself to the meditation group. Please dont stop going I really believe the leader of the group is right in what they say about the conscious & sub-conscious mind and look at other options as well like some books, if you dont like reading maybe the cds with books recorded on them or even a psychologist if its affordable (they cost so much in Australia but Im seeing one now and she is great). Every little bit of this sort of therapy is going to help. The sad thing is its not a quick fix which is what I have always wanted but its the right fix.
MP Im jealous I cant get a pharmacist to do up my mgs as apparently they said they arent allowed to and youre not allowed to split them etc. So I then hammered them over not helping me and walked out. Idiots what would they no.
Oh I have been meaning to pick up some Omega 3 as Ive heard so many good things about it. I like talking with you MP, Love Mandy.
Manic Mommy
Its great to hear when people like yourself come back online and tell us about your successes getting off effexor. Thank you
Diser
How quick did you go down? If you were on 150mgs and started going down in August what method did you use? It does sound like withdrawals from effexor.
My love to all
And sorry that I use so many words trying to explain myself.
x
MandyC last decade
Mandy it was good to read more about you and what you've been through - and where you're headed.....
I'm going to pick up my tapered capsules on Tuesday and start my taper then.
I talked to my psychiatrist tonight, and he really wants me to take 10 -20 mg of Prozac as I do the taper. He claims that it will make the taper much easier and I won't have to take as long.
I don't know whether to trust him on this or not, as I've heard otherwise from someone else. So, will do some more researching.....
I'm so proud you sticking with trying to get well through all the different routes you tried - it sounds a lot like me and what I've been through.
I want so badly to believe in the power of the mind to heal, but my 'intellect' kept sneaking in during the guided med. last night and saying, 'it's all a bunch of crap, don't believe any of it!'
I told the instructor that, and she said it was normal. She said with time and practice, I would be able to circumvent this beastly character :)
I want to believe it, but I've struck out so many times whilst listening to other 'professionals', that I'm at a place where I'm very suspicious.
However, I've read enough (I do love to read) to know, that this is a viable philosophy/therapy, so even tho it's like pulling teeth, I'm going to try and hang in there.
I hope to find 'Alexa' again as I want you to know 'Mandy' again......
By the way, I'm learning some dos and don'ts on the fish oils - what to look for when buying. Let me know if you'd like some more info.
With much love,
Alexa
I'm going to pick up my tapered capsules on Tuesday and start my taper then.
I talked to my psychiatrist tonight, and he really wants me to take 10 -20 mg of Prozac as I do the taper. He claims that it will make the taper much easier and I won't have to take as long.
I don't know whether to trust him on this or not, as I've heard otherwise from someone else. So, will do some more researching.....
I'm so proud you sticking with trying to get well through all the different routes you tried - it sounds a lot like me and what I've been through.
I want so badly to believe in the power of the mind to heal, but my 'intellect' kept sneaking in during the guided med. last night and saying, 'it's all a bunch of crap, don't believe any of it!'
I told the instructor that, and she said it was normal. She said with time and practice, I would be able to circumvent this beastly character :)
I want to believe it, but I've struck out so many times whilst listening to other 'professionals', that I'm at a place where I'm very suspicious.
However, I've read enough (I do love to read) to know, that this is a viable philosophy/therapy, so even tho it's like pulling teeth, I'm going to try and hang in there.
I hope to find 'Alexa' again as I want you to know 'Mandy' again......
By the way, I'm learning some dos and don'ts on the fish oils - what to look for when buying. Let me know if you'd like some more info.
With much love,
Alexa
mourningperson last decade
Alexa
I would love to hear some dos and donts about what to look for with Omega 3. I probably won't reply back today as it's Friday for me and in 1/2 hour I will be going home(I do all these posts at work, I have a great understanding boss and I don't have a computer at home).
I can so understand about not trusting professionals and I think it would be great to listen to their advice and always research the advice they give before practicing it. I really would want to research the Prozac with the Effexor before you begin. I will research from my end as well.
Thanks for your kind words about being proud of me, it makes me happy and I'm smiling so hard at the moment. I'm just as proud of you though Alexa, go back to your first post which wasn't long ago and see the difference between that Alexa and the now Alexa. I no there havent been any miracles that have happened but you must be able to see the positive change in yourself if even only small?
I love what you wrote about it's like pulling teeth lol cause you are right. It's a painful long journey but we are living so much pain lets take the journey thats long and painful so that will can find ourselves again and be the happy people we deserve to be.
Do keep using your mind as much as possible to keep putting positive thoughts in your head. I no your not so sure about this but please do keep on battling with it. Im trying to replace all my negatives with a positive. I no getting off effexor has allot of withdrawals and I do feel them but I turn around and say to myself Mandy what you have done with the tapering so far has it really been so bad? Sometimes I reply to myself yep and I will ask myself that question again until I tell myself no its not really that bad I could be worse. Of course its not easy and I may fall in a small hole (definitely not a big one) but I will succeed and so will Alexa.
Keep doing as best as you can with the power of the mind and Ill find out on Monday how you are going, plus I will await your advice on the Omega before I get any.
With love and happiness for us
Mandy
xx
P.S I have just written to the Pharmaceutical board of Western Australia to ask why I cant get help splitting capsules. We will see what answer I get (if any).
I would love to hear some dos and donts about what to look for with Omega 3. I probably won't reply back today as it's Friday for me and in 1/2 hour I will be going home(I do all these posts at work, I have a great understanding boss and I don't have a computer at home).
I can so understand about not trusting professionals and I think it would be great to listen to their advice and always research the advice they give before practicing it. I really would want to research the Prozac with the Effexor before you begin. I will research from my end as well.
Thanks for your kind words about being proud of me, it makes me happy and I'm smiling so hard at the moment. I'm just as proud of you though Alexa, go back to your first post which wasn't long ago and see the difference between that Alexa and the now Alexa. I no there havent been any miracles that have happened but you must be able to see the positive change in yourself if even only small?
I love what you wrote about it's like pulling teeth lol cause you are right. It's a painful long journey but we are living so much pain lets take the journey thats long and painful so that will can find ourselves again and be the happy people we deserve to be.
Do keep using your mind as much as possible to keep putting positive thoughts in your head. I no your not so sure about this but please do keep on battling with it. Im trying to replace all my negatives with a positive. I no getting off effexor has allot of withdrawals and I do feel them but I turn around and say to myself Mandy what you have done with the tapering so far has it really been so bad? Sometimes I reply to myself yep and I will ask myself that question again until I tell myself no its not really that bad I could be worse. Of course its not easy and I may fall in a small hole (definitely not a big one) but I will succeed and so will Alexa.
Keep doing as best as you can with the power of the mind and Ill find out on Monday how you are going, plus I will await your advice on the Omega before I get any.
With love and happiness for us
Mandy
xx
P.S I have just written to the Pharmaceutical board of Western Australia to ask why I cant get help splitting capsules. We will see what answer I get (if any).
MandyC last decade
Thank you morningperson and mandy for replying. After ready so much in the past few days on effexor withdrals I realize I probably went down to fast. My Dr. said there would be problem doing it gradually and I followed his instruction. 150mg down to 112.5mg, then to 75mg then to 37.5mg. It wasn't until a week after being at 37.5 that I started having brain shivers (I keep refering to them as bugs in my head). The past 4 days have been awful but am happy to report that today, I believe, the bugs are starting to slowly move out. I was put in effexor for anxiety and panic attacks - my question - anyone feeling anxious on the drug? Effexor did help me at first buy, wow, the last 3 years, I believe now, the side effects were awful. You would think that doctors would recongnize these symtoms as side effects, instead mine keept blaming it on axiety and wanted me to increase my dose. It wasn't until this summer that something inside me was telling me that this drug was a big cause of my problems. My X-mas gift to myself this year is to be free of this drug. x-mas eve will be my last pill, I'm off work for two weeks, so hopefully this will be enough time to get through it. I must admit that I am really scared after all that I have read but I must do this for myself. Thanks to all.
diser last decade
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