Attn : Dr.David Kempson (Brisbanehomoeopath) _{Page 15 of 19}

Considering how much trouble I have had getting any response here, this has been intersting to see the patient get at least some improvement, or an aggravation. Hura was the only remedy I prescribed that showed improvement, albeit short-lived.

However blaming the patient for a medicine you prescribed seems misplaced to me. I could accept it is a shared responsibility but not only the patient's. You did assure the patient that the Ceanothus would not aggravate him at all despite his concerns it would. His desire to take it would have been based on this assurance. So shared blame there.

There is no need to get so defensive. We all make wrong prescriptions, we all create aggravations that we didn't intend, we all stir up pathology and old symptoms and create provings at times. Just accept the responsibility, and move on from it.

I don't understand the idea of using mother tinctures when potencies are available, but to each their own. In this case it didn't work out so well but I am sure in some instances it would be appropriate.

As Dr. Showrav has said, the reaction to Ceannothus may be aggravation, possibly so strong because it was not potentized and diluted to a level that was safe. It would be best to wait another week to see if improvement sets in.

I also notice that both Nux-vomica and Anacardium were prescribed close to one another. Which one of them produced the improvement? That might need to be sorted out as well.

The improvement in that time was only in the following areas:

Nervousness
Restlessness
Confidence

With no change in any other areas, including no aggravation. It is hard to judge what happened - is the potency wrong? Would another dose have made more changes? Was one of those remedies a partial similar. The introduction of a new medicine at this point, clearly a mistake, has added further uncertainty.

So order needs to be created here. My suggestion would be wait to see if Ceanothus creates healing. Then go back and repeat first one dose of the Nux-vomica, and wait a suitable amount of time. Then repeat the Anacardium, again waiting a suitable amount of time.

This will allow us to sort out what worked and what did not. This unfortunately is the main reason I do not advocate use of multiple remedies - it actually slows down the process of cure not speeds it up.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:43:47 GMT]
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:53:48 GMT]

You took Nux-vomica and Anacardium one after the other. How do you know Anacardium produced those results?

I don't know better. Nobody does. A medicine can take a week to show its action. Which one started working - Nux-vomica or Anacardium?

This is the problem. You cannot be sure, I cannot be sure. It is all guess-work until we test it out.

Are you sure you want me to take the case back? I didn't have much success before, although I also didn't really adversely affect your case much either.

I might not agree with the ways things were done here recently, but since I had had no substantial results yet am I the best person for the job?

Dr. David,

Here is a help for u from my side, I used all the medicines which strongly works on abdominal organs. I Got results beautifully either aggravation or calm improvements. What I realize from that is his headache is most probably bcs of abdominal dis functioning. Some of his brain nerves got partially or fully blocked or narrowed which is related to his abdominal organ some how. So giving strong medicines which effective at abdominal dis-functioning may give him permanent cure. If u really think Ceanothus is still working in him with aggravation than give him 2-3 Ceanothus 30c or 200c Dose of it or Camphor Q 3-5 Doses which will neutralize the previous Ceanothus Q medicine.

I don't really understand your suggestion Dr. Showrav. I haven't heard this idea of giving a 'strong medicine which is effective at abdominal disfunctioning'. That isn't part of any homoeopathic teaching I have had.

All remedies act at the dynamic level, the level of the vital force. You only need to aim them there, and the vital force will correct any disfunctioning.


This patient has a very difficult case. No homoeopath has been able to help him. I believe it will require a very deep understanding of the vital energy's imbalance to cure him, since it appears all the 'easy' answers do nothing, or aggravate him.

Most of the tools I would use to do this are unavailable to me here, since face-to-face prescribing is not possible. Both you and I are hampered by this. Simple symptomatic prescribing appears to be ineffective here. The patient's reactions are unexpected.

All I can do is what I would do for anyone else on the forum. I will reanalyze the information given, I will try to pull out the peculiars, the things that appear to show the way to understanding vital disturbance, explore those until I am confident that a remedy has shown itself.

The state behind the symptoms, the totality, that is what needs to be discerned here. Once that is done, cure will come.

If the aggravation from Ceanothus has not produced improvement, then I will continue looking for another remedy.

I m really sorry for me bcs I wasted my time trying helping u.

U r totally out of the world from my knowledge and ideas. By the way I didn't failed but the patient quieted from me bcs of his own fault not mine!!


Dr. Showrav
Bangladesh
[message edited by Dr. Showrav on Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:48:24 GMT]

Well Dr. Showrav, you have been unable to explain any of your 'ideas' to me, despite the fact that I am very well trained in homoeopathic materia medica and philosphy. In fact every time I ask you to do so, you throw some kind of tantrum.

There is no help being offered with cryptic statements such as you make, that do not resemble homoeopathic learning in any way. You offer help, refuse to explain how it could be helpful, then get angry when I challenge it.

I assume from that you cannot explain your ideas. Really, how can we possibly have any kind of intellectual discussion about our differences if you cannot do that.

That being the case, I have no idea how any kind of collaboration could ever happen. You appear to practice some kind of medicine that is unfamilar to me, and in some ways contradicts what I know works in homoeopathy. It is probably best if we just avoid such a situation occurring again as the stress of such arguments is not good for either of us.

I will say again though, it is not appropriate to be laying the blame at the patient's feet entirely. That lack of responsibility on your part is very worrying. Both of you were involved here.

Just in the same manner, my lack of success so far in this case, is not the patient's fault, it is more mine I think, but each of us has input into the right remedy being found, so lack of success comes from both sides.

Alright then, let's get to work on this.

I am going to spend a few hours now revisiting all the posts here. I will have a few questions for you at the end of that no doubt.

I would say that there must be something in the prescription of Ceanothus that resonated with your disease though, to get such a reaction. It may or may not help us to find a better remedy for you.

Ok I have a few questions already.

Please talk about:

Normal

Abnormal

Weak

Helpless

Unusual


Please tell me also, what it is that allows others to control or dominate you?

Ok you have misunderstood what I am asking for.

Don't give me any stories about your life. I have that already, a great deal of it from all these posts.

I just want you to define the word, describe what it means, give me examples of it.

The story of your life does not actually help me to find the remedy. It is the experience instead that does.

So just answer these again.

What is normal?

What is abnormal?

What is weakness?

What is helpless?

What is something that is unusual?

Don't give me any stories at all. Just tell me what those things are, what it is like when any person experiences them, what things in the world represent such a concept.

Your last answer was good, that was helpful. But the others were not so helpful.

Ok that has created interesting answers, perhaps not what I had expected which is good - suprises mean I am continuing to learn what the truth is here.

Normal = what is expected of you. So someone is normal when they do what you would expect them to do, according to their habit or schedule.

So if I said 'I am feeling normal', from your meaning I would be saying 'I am doing what is expected of me, what I am meant to be doing (my job?)'

Abnormal I find harder to understand. Why is harming others or gossiping considered abnormal? Can you be more general with your explanation of what 'Abnormal' means?

Weakness = lack of courage. So if I feel weak, then what I am saying is I have no courage?

Again can you be more general with your explanation of 'Weak'? What is weakness, define it?

Helpless = nobody is around to help you, because you are alone? So if I say 'I am helpless', I am saying 'I am alone and nobody can help me'?

What is unusual about an animal that behaves like a man? What does unusual mean exactly? It sounds like you are describing an expectation again.

There is something in all of this. I am not sure I quite understand it yet, but see how you go at explaining it further to me.

Dr. Devid,

At ur last post here regarding me u have nicely explained the difference between me and u. U also cleared and used gentleman language to make me understand ur lac of understanding my ideas. I agree with u that I didn't explained my full ideas here ever with u but not bcs of lac of my logic, it was only bcs of I dont have so much time free to explain u in details.

U r well trained in homeopathic medical science no doubt. But do u know trained and owned or earned knowledge always have a far difference between each other? As a trained tiger can stand and walk in circus but cant really walk or stand like man naturally how much training it have doesn't matter. The knowledge I earned or owned and u trained will never be the same it is natural.

I never had scope to share my full idea here bcs it is combination of pharmacy, physiology, anatomy, materia medica, organon and natural chemical reaction in body and medicines. U cannot put those whole books here in online if ur opponent doesn't have enough knowledge on all of them but few.

Small description of my ideas I like to add for u now,

Human or any animal on planet eats food when it feels hungry and drinks water when it feels thirsty. No one does mistake to take food first while water is available and he is thirsty. Diabetic patients usually have craving for sugar bcs their body is not getting it from proper way and some people who have craving for salt u will easily get symptoms of Nat Mur in their body bcs their body is not getting salt in proper way.

When u have thirsty ness and u dont drink water but still taking food after some time u will feel dehydration and other symptoms. the problems will b more severe in future if u still not getting water and time will come by this process when u will b unable to drink water in natural way bcs ur esophagus will dry to much and when u will try to drink thn water will go to ur head by nasal breathing lines.

Thats how the problem occurs in general way which is the most important cause of collecting symptoms of cravings for special foods is one of the most important thing in homeopathic medicine. Alopthy denied to agree with the spiritual factor of human body and only dependent to treat on body they see and most of the Dr. in Homeopathy like u do not agree with body mechanisms natural way just rely on spirits power to heal the body itself. This is the most important reason why failure of taking a good medicine at maximum time. Body and soul or spirit both have connection with each other. both can act individually and together with when ever they need. So if u trow of any one and think of only one will never help u for longer.

Now cashew nut was patients favorite food and he has craving for that which is y I suggested him Anacardium which is also made from cashew nut. He got quick positive results. Y I have given him Ceanothus later and y the good work of Anacardium didnt stayed long that needs more 5 page description at least and I m really feeling so tired to share with u.

Mr. gkumar,

U didn't provoked the chaos between us here. This cold war is running between us from very beginning of my presence in here.It is a war between old ideas pride VS multiple knowledge and research. Let's see how it ends!!

Dr. Showrav
Bangladesh

There is no war. I have no interest in fighting you. We simply are not the same kind of practitioners. Obviously I believe sticking to the principles is best, and you believe something else. We will just have to agree to disagree. I have no problem debating ideas here, as long as it does not become a tirade of insults and personal attacks.

However, our conflicting ideas about treatment will never allow us to share a patient. So any person here will need to choose to follow one or the other.

Anacardium appears to have only been a palliative effect, and only partially palliative at that. There is no need to write 5 pages on it, it is clear what happened. A partial similar can do this.