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I have been diagnosed with oral lichen planus and I am 99% sure that i have L.P and Lichen Scelrosis too as well as thrush. yeast infec was proven recently and its beena recurring thing.

Could someone please advise me on what successful treatments they have taken to treat it so that i may start from there or go to a homeopath with the info. No one seems to know muchabot it and even the surgeons and GPs dont provide me with info butinstead just topical creams which have just supressed it and maybe causing more damage.

ALso what does erosive Lichen Sclerosis mean. I have glugginess in my vagina. (thick blobs of mucous that i have to scoop out with my fingers because otherwise it just sits there. I have a prolapse too .

I have never had children, 26 yrs old, should be healthy really i put it all down to stress and possibly started fromtaking antibiotics or antimalarials when my immune system was weak.

I have white striae around my clitoris, inmy mouth and ulcers on my tnougue as well as lesions popping one by one onmy body. I really dont want to apply topical creams but getting desperate as the lseions scar my skin and look terrible. Also, i cant keep cutting out the ulcers on my tongue and my inner cheek is getting pretty bad i think causing gingivitis too in my mouth.

Does anyone have advice for me please??

thankyou for reading

  Miss K on 2006-03-10
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I am very ANTI antibiotics, they only cause trouble.

Sounds as if your immune system is pretty dodgy.

One or two things that MAY help.

Protect the immune system for any type of infection
From steve lord on 2005-09-29
59 replies 1947 views

I am a retired lawyer in Santa Barbara, Ca. I found
that merely applying slight pressure to the ear next
to the ear canal by placing a small piece from an
ORGANIC cotton ball (nothing else works) stimulates
our immune system to such a great degree that 11 of us
tried it for colds, some bad enough to see a doctor
for them and the average time it took to completely
cure our colds was 3 hours. (this is not a joke or a
hoax). The average time it took us to completely
eradicate the malaise, fever and sore throat was one
hour and the other 2 hours was needed for the nasal
symptoms. Similar effects are seen in my flu's and
several cases of food poisoning.

That level of immune stimulation is of course
unprecedented and it would seem likely to be great
enough to cure many if not most of the infectious
diseases in the world. It also has remarkable tissue
healing effects as well.

THis method is befinning to be investigated by various
members of the medical community. Dr Ralph Wilson
(naturopathic physician) has put my story on his
website (push essays on the left side and mine is THE
FETAL CURE , in the T section, see the emails of the
man who put his severe 20 year autoimmune disease into
complete remission in a few days with this method-this
essay also describes why it works).

Dr Wilson emailed the head of microbiology at the US
National Institutes of HEalth Division of Immunology
and Infectious Disease supporting it.. That head
emailed me that she had told her clinical researchers
about it and would bring it up again to them. A
researcher at the Univ of Arizona Medical School told
me she would include it in her grant request using Qi
Gong for AIDS from the Gates Foundation if whe could
gain agreement of her colleagues. A medical researcher
at Bastyr Univ (naturopathic college) who used to be
the head of research there emailed me 2 days ago
saying she was presently trying it as a test in
herself. She didnt say what condition she was using it

One just places a piece of a cotton ball in ONE ear ,
(either ear and you can switch ears for comfort sake)
the size of a small marble (not so big to be
incomfortable, but big enough to cause a little
pressure) and poke it in gently until it stops going
in any more to where you put an ear plug for noise,
next to the ear canal and keep checking it to make
sure it stays in place and wear it there with nothing
in the other ear.

Best results would be obtained by wearing the cotton
24 hours a day even during sleep , checking it every
so often to see if it has slipped out some. Poke it
gently a couple of times again to make sure its in all
the way. Replace it as needed to keep it clean and

Our immune system I have found cant be stimulated
while exposed to most types of manmade radiation such
as cell phones (even when just being carried) or
within 2 or 3 feet of you) or when using a computer
and it would be better to take the cotton out at those
times. The same problem if you smoke (80 or 90% of the
effect is lost) and some amount will be lost by things
that suppress immunity such as steroids or sythetic
opiate pain killer.

The cotton ball has to be ORGANIC cotton, it must say
ORGANIC on the package because ordinary cotton balls
are either genetically modified now or are synthetic
and neither will work, the body wont respond to them.
Most health food markets sell orgnic cotton balls. You
would have to call around.

One shouldnt do this if you take close to a toxic dose
of any drugs with severe side effects since this
method may increase circulation causing a mildly
greater drug effect. I am not a Doctor and cant
prescribe this for anyone..Check with your Doctor.
Good Luck

Sincerely Steve Lord

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From walkin on 2005-09-30

kuldeep -- any comments?

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From stevelord on 2005-10-03
Here are 4 emails from the gentleman who lives in
South Africa who read my post on another website about
this method and decided to try it for Ulcerative
Colitis, an autoimmune disease of the colon. His
result demonstrates the unprecedented level of immune
stimulation this method provides. Steve Lord

> wrote:Hello Steve

I have read an article written by you about the fetal

Is this some sort of joke or is it real?.

Where did you learn about this technique if it is
indeed not a hoax?

Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or
just one ear?

I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20
years and I am prepared
try anything that will free me of this dreaded

Second Email.

> wrote: Hello Steve

I did the fetal cure last night and the results were
amazing. I was
suffering a
severe flareup with my colitis during the last few
weeks. I was having
about 20
bowel movements of watery and bloody stools. (Added
note by Steve Lord-in another email he had told me
that that he had had UC for 20 years and that no drug
his Doctor had given him had worked and that only
surgery could help him which he was awaiting when he
saw my post. Please ingnore the part of the method he
describes ad sitting in the dark as that is irrelevant
and I included it in my post as part of a discussion
on why this works.)

I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in
the dark for about
hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still
intact in my ear. I
got up
this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took
a shower with it.

I only had one bowel movement today. There was no
blood in my stools My
had a better formation though still watery. My
abdominal and back pains
gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would
apprecuate it if you
let me know what to avoid with colitis.

P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this
wonderful cure?


Third Email

> wrote:Hello Steve

Day 3 report.

All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except
that my stool formation
still not normal. I have noticed that my
hayfever/rhinitis has completely
vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I
was suffering from
colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and
I will ask her what
of arthritis she has.

P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message
boards. I have suffered
such a long time and I really feel sorry for others
who have been
from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but
there must be other
desperate people like me who are willing to give it a


Forth email:

> wrote
:Hello Steve

Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the
last few days. I was
feeling so well that I decided to take a little
vacation into the
mountains. I
would have written to you but unfortunately I did not
have access to the

I have been literally pigging myself during the last
few days. I was
making up
for all the good foods I denied myself for years.
Foods that iritated my
colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now

I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are
getting more formed by the
I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing
that I noticed is that
sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am
not waking up very
like I previously did.

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From lins421 on 2005-11-07
I wonder if I could use this approach on my horse? His
immune system has appeared to be compromised since
spring of 2005. He goes through this cycle every 3
years or so, but this has been the longest bout. His
appetite is good, but his skin condition in not and he
seems to have discomfort in his back/hind quarters. It
is not chiropractic, but could be neurological. Vets
haven't been able to diagnose. So any suggestions are
welcome. I have been giving him COQ10, Raw Adrenal
Supplements, plus a whole host of other stuff that a
eastern practitioner recommended.

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From Astra2012 on 2005-11-07
Thank you-I definitely tell people to try it. Sounds
incredible in its simplicity but we here know very
well that best things are simplest.

Do you know if it works through immune system so it is
limited to diseases with immune sys. compromised, or
increases all body healing abilities?

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From Chris J on 2005-11-07
This is interesting. I wonder if it's the cotton
material itself that is exhibiting some kind of
homeopathic effect, or if another organic material
would have a similar effect.


Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From stevelord on 2005-11-17
To Astra and Chris. To Asstra--this method has been
tried on many illness and injuries and has shown
across the board results comparable to the infections
we tried in both injuries and diseases and seemingly
stimulaltes beneficially all functions of the body we
can test it against, like improving sleep, faster
recovery from fatigue , even enhancing sexual arousal
while organic cotton is in the ear (remember it must
be organic cotton).
Thus it can be tried in anything with a likelihood it
will work and obviously so.

To Chris, Its the pressure that does it not the
organic cotton per se but the pressure is simulating
the fetal finger exploring the ear and thus the
pressure must be caused by something the body cant
distinguish from a body part and cotton , and now only
organic cotton works due to the genetic engineering of
conventional cotton, although some lesser effect is
caused by using simple white toilet paper which is
similar to cotton in that it is also made up of
glucose molecules strung together. but I woundnt
recommend that inferior method. THanks Steve

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From new2town on 2005-11-17
Strangely, my dad has the same cotton in the ear(but
both ears) theory, taht we all laugh off- maybe there
is some truth to it?

Re: New free simple way to stimulate immune system for
any type of infection From stevelord on 2005-11-21
Hi new2town. Ask your dad where he heard it and tell
him one ear is vastly better.

People from a number of countries have told me or I
have read on the internet use this method. It is
listed in folk medicine websites. But it is not
appreciated yet as to its power on everything and is
mostly used only in ear infections but in Southern
India pregnant woman use it for infectios someone
emailed and fatigue.

Does anyone out there in abc homeopathy land know of
anyone who gets migraines because I corresponding with
a professor from India who is telling people about it
and reports that not only does it cures colds fast but
totally prevents migraines in 2 people that tried it
for that if used all the time. Three other people I
know tried its equivalent for migraine and report that
if used immediately at the first sigh it eliminated
the migraine in 5 minutes and if it has already set in
it eliminates it about 10 percent an hour and all 3
were long time suffers in whom nothing had worked and
got migreaines lasting for days. Just thought Id see
if you all knew anyone so we could see if it worked
for everyone as migraines make peoples lives hell on
earth. (remember to tell them is HAS to be organic-if
this is a folk remedy around the world it is going to
stop working as genetic modied cotton becomes
universal-the INdian people I mentioned re migraine
used an organic brand I sent to the professor -but
ENgland sells organic cotton I am told .

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The nasal spray pump plays a big part in my use of peroxide. I use it to propel the peroxide into my lungs by spraying it into the back of my throat. I also spray my toothbrush to clean my teeth, to clean my glasses, spray minor cuts and scrapes, and wet postage stamps. Peroxide can be used as an aftershave tonic. Spray it on your face and rub it in. BE SURE you close your eyes when you spray your face. It will be uncomfortable if you don’t. Peroxide may be a factor in retarding aging.
I have an additional nasal pump that is full of distilled water and I use it to flush out my eyes when they feel a little dry. I spray my eyes and let the water drain down my cheeks. I wipe the water off my cheeks only, with a tissue. There are no chemicals in distilled water.
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These things are not homeopathic but I have tried both and to me they seem to help in various ways.

Erosive means ulcerative , thrush can be treated with live yoghurt. Ulcers often yeild to Merc 30 or 1m.

Bellis 1m will often cure lesions BUT do NOT take more than one remedy at a time.

Diet should be vegetarian.
walkin last decade
All these things are worth trying.
kuldeep last decade
LICHEN SCLEROSIS is NOT an INFECTION. It is an auto-immune disorder caused by an OVER-ACTIVE immune system which has begun to attack the body itself. If you have an auto immune disorder, boosting the immune system is NOT the appropriate response and could make your condition WORSE.

- fellow sufferer
agirlwithaguitar last decade
TO Miss K:

I am a fellow sufferer of lichen sclerosis. It seems like maybe the doctors you have seen have not given you much good information. LS is an auto-immune disorder with genetic component. If you have it, the only known treatments for it are the steroid creams you have been prescribed. Be sure and use the ointment, because if you don't suppress this condition, it can destroy your labia, clitoris, urethra and vulva. It can make it difficult or even impossible for you to have sex or pee ever again without surgery. This is a very serious and dangerous condition.

You should see someone who specializies in gynecological dermatology. GPs, OB/GYN or STD specialists don't know much about this condition as it is rare. I did not get good information or advice until I saw a gynecological dermatology specialist. If you have health insurance, insist that your physician refer you, or call around and just demand to be seen. In the meantime, you should apply the ointment twice daily to all areas of your vaginal and anal area that do not have pubic hair, until you see no more white skin anywhere (only pink), including the clitoris, urethra and vaginal entrance. Discontinue on any areas that become red or sore. Examine the area in a mirror daily.

And, good luck!
agirlwithaguitar last decade
Hi there

thankyou so much for your email. I am a little confused by it though. I notice that in all the natural therpaies supressing it doesnt help to get rid of the condition at all so why would supressing anything be a good hting..it might only come back later ten fold..think of it like this we are told by specialists that it is important to release tension and stress and not to bottle it up by supressing the emotion because it only causes more stress so wouldnt the same thoery apply to this condition?? I have not taken any steroid creams at all..i am ending up with lots of little pink scars on my skin which dont look very nice but i dont see how the steroid creams are really going ot help either other than to avoid the scars.. my main ocncern right not is the Oral lichen planus..it is getting pretty bad..i have white striae all in my mouth and lots of what i think are ulcers..im also experiencing pain behind my wisdom tooth.

ALso i didnt understadn what you meant about rubbing the oitment on the skin around the vulva until its all pink?? is the cream you use pink? ive seen only white cream in the past. i dont feel confortable about applying those creams down there..i have enough problems i think.. i had too much lactobacilii in my vagina and was given a cream for it which i took only half the treatment...

Lichen planus is i believe a weakening of the epithelial cells which cause the pigmentation..now on a swab test of my vagina it also had that the epitelial cells had only 1 cross instead of 3 so i took that as being that they are weak in my vagina as well which probably has soemthing to do with the fact that i had a profuse amount of lactobacilli. I am not sure if they are connected. I do not have any thrush..maybe i never did and it was misdiagnosed as thrush..

My other conmcern is that i have what a doctor beleives to be prolapse..at 27 thats alittle annoying..especially since i havent had any kids..i am slim...and i exercise..its so weird that i have it..i am putting it down to years of straining when i go to the toilet.

Unfortunately it has been months and i am waiting to see a dermatologist for my skin and i have no idea about the Oral lichen planus. I am not sure what to do...doctors will only give me a topical cream for it and i dont really like that idea..

how are you going with it??
Miss K last decade
Hey... I asked my gynae, Miss Wendy Reid of the Royal Free in London (who specialises in Lichen Sclerosus) about the potential dangers of boosting the immune system as I was taking herbs from an naturopath to do just that. She gave me a detailed explanation of how LS actually works as an autoimmune disorder which I cannot recall, but suffice to say that she was VERY clear that it was FINE to boost the immune system. It would have no negative effect on the LS. Which was a great relief to me, and I would guess, to you!

For what it's worth, she had a student who had done research into tea tree oil (4/5 % - NEVER neat - and some people are allergic so patch test first - some burning sensation is normal) and it had proven that it helps skin elasticity, which is a real issue with LS.

I was using House of Mistry tea tree cream (no hidden nasties, parabens etc) and she was very enthusiastic about the change in my vulval skin.

I was also using steroid creams for a while, but when the course ended I just used the tea tree cream.

When I stopped using the tea tree cream she noticed the difference and berated me!

And, I would say that what has helped most with me is working on my mental-emotional state. I recommend the work of Byron Katie for calming your stressful thoughts - visit her site, listen to audio and video clips, and use her hotline volunteers (highly trained and, unbelievably, free!!).

An autoimmune condition 'down there' SURELY must indicate some kind of self-loathing...
So being loving to yourself, your mind, AND your body - realising it's not the enemy - is really helpful.

Stress definitely makes it flare up more. As does sugar in my case, by the way, and I'm not alone in this.

I would also say that although my LS is only very mild now - I came off steroids and tea tree cream at the request of my homeopath - I had a huge flare up when I first came off them. And, they WERE very effective in getting rid of my first bouts of LS.

So don't dismiss them.

You may come across scary cancer of the vulva stories.

Wendy Reid was also very emphatic that this didn't happen to people who were receiving treatment for LS, it was for longterm, undiagnosed, untreated LS where it was a risk.
Some people need to use steroid creams once a week, ongoingly, once the flare-up has resolved, and they manage perfectly well like this.

I would contact a support group and find a gynae and dermatologist who really cares and knows about this condition - that's what I did.

Good luck!
saritalove last decade
Hi Sarita, I've found your posts really helpful. You mention your homeopath in another post. I'd be really interested to know who you see sa I want to see someone who has some prior knowledge of LS.

Very best wishes and many thanks in advance!
liketobeholistic last decade
I have this condition, lichen sclerosis and I wanted to talk about my experiences.
I used the clobetasol steroid ointment for about a year and it really did help at first but started thinning the skin a little. I got my vulva looking pretty normal, though. At some point, I added the estrogen cream because I had heard it would help restore the normal color and it did for awhile. The only problem being, I started turning bright red around Christmastime 2006 and burning and itching. I decided to do an herbal cleanse. I found out I had intestinal worms and also I just got really sick for about a month with coughing, phlegm, itching all over, body twitches, yeast infections, skin rashes, fever, chills, back and neck pain, etc. And my LS flared badly.
Finally after a few months of taking vitamin C and garlic and other immune boosters all of this went away and I didn't have any flares of the LS for about 6 months either.
Later I took an antibiotic for a skin infection and the LS flared again along with the yeast infection and the back pain got a lot worse, the coughing, chills, everything came back. I figured out the connection might be yeast and started taking garlic and everything got better.
So for me I think now that yeast is the trigger for the LS.
I've been taking olive leaf extract and garlic and occasionally caprylic acid.

I didn't check myself at all for about 8 or 9 months and just looked yesterday and I'm completely purple and the skin has grown over my clitoris. I had stopped using the clobetasol and the estrogen crea.
So, now I'm going to start using the steroid cream again to try to get it under control
It's like a Catch 22 because I'm sure the yeast is a trigger but I need to get rid of it. And, I seem to have to use the steroid cream occasionally to keep the LS from getting worse.
archersdream last decade
I see someone posted my post heere about treating autoimmmune disease (in my case and another man whose email I quoted, it was autoimmune colitis) and someone here posted that immune stimulation would make an autoimmune disease like lichen slerosis worse not better, but that may be tru for most immune stimulants, but both of us have observed total abolishment of our symptoms with the descibed organic cotton ball in the ear method, because, muy deduction is that it stimulates also the suppressor cells of the immune system and in that way more effectively governs the immune system. I wont bore you with the evidence that that is so.

And why this works where other immune stimulants may have failed in autoimmune disease is that this one has evolved over millions of years (in the fetus who it appears explored his ear a lot with his finger and therefore this method is more 'perfected' we'll call it, and it is thus able to stimulate, it appears, all arms of the immune system equally, not just the attack ones like the natural killer cells.

Thus it may indeed work in lichen problems if the person is not taking any immmune suppressing drugs like cortisone type steroids and if one pays attention to the conditions that I list in the paper someone posted here, or I listed them again in a thread here about using the fetal hand position which does the same things as the organic cotton technique, that fetal hand post is on the first page as of now of this forum. One might try that because the only orgainc cotton that I can vouch for must be mailed ordered from ORganic Essentials in Texas USA, dont know about the British version, whether it works.

If this doesnt solve the problem then ther ar a few other lifestyle changes I can recommend that help to more 'perfect' the immuneee response, that one can nclude but in either case, I would recommend avoiding cows milk, anything cooked in a microwave or any powdered protein loke soy, as all three really corrupt my immune system and cause autoimmune symptoms immedieatly in me and Im betting in all people.

Steve Lord, Santa Barbara Ca.
stevelord last decade

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