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Maheeru:

I didn't take any medicine on 29/7/11, 30/7/11,31//11 & 1/8/11. On 1/8/11 I had the worst possible aggravation (day & night) so much so that I took maximum doses of pain killers but without any effect. Even Tramazac injection did nothing.

Today (2/8/11) I have taken one dose of Kali Carb 30C at 7.45 AM. It was earlier suggested by one doctor but I had not taken then.
Let me see the effect, then I will report

With regds.

Prakash.

Maheeru:

Kali Carb also gave some relief the first day only. Thereafter agg was of the highest order (day & night). I took only two doses of kali carb 30C. Thereafter I took Camph 30C as it is an antidote of Kali Carb plus it had always gave me relief in past. Its first dose helped me magically, but later there was only aggravation till today (it is 6.15 pm now) of the highest order. I have to take pain killers even then life is unbearable.

Now I want to try out some suitable medicine out of the parallel medicines of Camphor because drug symptoms of Camphor match mine almost completely. Can you please give me a list of these parallel medicines? Or, pl tell how I can get it from the net or otherwise.

Or, kindly tell me what I should do.

With due regards,

Prakash

Maheeru:

Thank you so much,but you never gave me the link for Z Val. Will you pl give it to me now for later use , if required? I have decided upon Verat 30C and have already started it. I will report the progress to you as and when required.

With due rgds.

Prakash

Maheeru:

I was not so non-observant earlier. I suppose the types of aggravations I have been in, day and night, have made me worse than ever before. Yes! The link is very much there. I am sorry for my comment.

The second thing is a BIG THING. It has always been in the back of my mind that during the last 5-6 years there were distinctly two times/days when my condition had become real good (free of symptoms) and that I have mentioned so in my records also. I went through my records and found that both these days were during the period when I was taking Phosphorus. Then I changed Phosphorus to Mag-C was an unfortunate thing.

In total I took 17 doses of phos 200 during the period 31/7/09, 1/8/09 & 7/8/09 to 24/8/09. THE FIRST REAL GOOD PERIOD was after the 11th dose taken at 2.30PM on 17/8/09 [ from 12 day on 17/8/09 to 3.40AM on 18/8/09]. At 11.00PM on 17/8/09, I have written – “I don’t know how to react. I have never witnessed this condition (symptom-free) earlier. What am I supposed to do! This condition started EVEN BEFORE I took the 11th dose of phos200+ at 2.30PM on 17/8/09.. What is the cause of this condition? What triggered it?” I had taken the 10th dose at 6.15AM on 15/8/09 and I had taken Pain killer (Mazetol 200) – 1 tablet at 5AM, 1 tab at 3.40AM &1 tab at 5AM on 16/8/09.

THE SECOND REAL GOOD PERIOD was after I took the 17th (i.e. the last) dose of Phos200+ at 7AM on 24/8/09 and had to take 2 tabs of Mazetol at 10PM on24/8/09 and 2.45AM on 25/8/09 thereafter. This 2nd real good period was from 10.45PM on 24/8/09 to 3PM on 26/8/09 (i.e. about 40 hours). During this period also I did not have disease symptoms.

To my most unfortunateness, I stopped taking Phos just after that, in stead of taking its next dose. The comment which I have written in my records reades as –

4PM 25/8/09 “Spl Note:

(!)I have witnessed ‘almost nil symptoms’ condition on 17/8/09 (from 12.00day on 17/8/09 to 3.30AM on 18/8/09) i.e. for 15.1/2 hrs. – after I took Mazetol 200 at 3.40Am & 5AM
AND
Today (i.e. from 3.15AM, 24/8/09 to 4PM, 25/8/09) i.e. for > 12 hrs.
BECAUSE OF WHAT??

(II)It must have been due to Mazetol 200 in both cases, because in both cases I had been taking Phos200+ with dissatisfactory results before taking Mazetol 200 tablets; and even afterwards in 17/8/09 case.

SO IT DOES NOT MEAN PHOS200+ IS SUITING ME TO SUCH AN EXTENT.

(III)Hence, I think I should change over to Mag-C-200 now.


I wrote out another comment on 28/8/09 which analyzed the above situation again in detail and came to the conclusion that the above good effects must have been due to Phos 200+, but, to my bad luck, I did not continue with Phos200 again.

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And, now, you have suggested Bryonia/Phosphorus; and again as the biggest fool, I tried to keep aside Phosphorus by telling you that I have already tried it out.

I beg your pardon in all my earnestness for my behavior. I feel Phosphorus is my medicine, but I have not restarted it yet, because, now, I want to take it under your guidance.

Now I am free from the effects of Verat (which were too bad to experience) by taking 4 doses of Camphor 200 (as antidote and also because Camphor suits me well) and some pain killers.

Now I request you to kindly accept me as your patient. Kindly tell me the potency, dose and frequency of Phosphorus which I should take. Also, what exactly will be the wet dose.

To my understanding, wet dose or split dose is as follows. Take a disposable paper container/glass of about 300 ml capacity. Stand near a water tap. Put a drop of Phosphorus in it. Fill it up with tap-water. Then throw this water out. Refill the paper container again with tap-water. Throw out the water again. Refill, throw out ,… repeat this process 10/20/30/40/…..number of times. Then take a mouth full of sip from the water of the last refill. This is your dose. Don’t use the same water container again. Use a fresh one each time.

If this is what you want me to do, please tell me – how many times I should refill the paper container before taking the sip as my dose. Also, any other instructions.

In 2009, I was making my doses by the method of dilutions in double distilled water. Preparing double distilled water was a very cumbersome process. My last i.e. 17th dose of Phosphorus 200+ taken on 24/8/09 had contained 1 / 4,25,00,000 of a drop of medicine only. I am very susceptible to homeopathic medicines.

Pl tell me if you need any further information.

Awaiting you earliest response and with due regards, I am,

Yours,

P. Prakash

Maheeru:

I am waiting for your reply, Sir!

Prakash

Maheeru:

Thanks a lot for your this post which I had been awaiting and awaiting, and also for your concern regarding administering the best possible medicine to me this time. However, my inputs are as follows:

1.During the course of the last about 5 years, and after trying out about 25 medicines, only two medicines have helped me miraculously well viz. Camphor and Phosphorus. Lately, the effects of Camphor have started including some drug symptoms also like loosening and paining of some teeth, though it always helps me still otherwise. So I use it sparingly. However, Phosphorus which is a much deeper acting medicine has not been tried out fully. I discontinued its use on wrong grounds. I didn’t recognize its initial aggravation, and took 2 tabs of pain killer to end this aggravation. Thereafter started its amelioration effect (most marvelous, as if I didn’t have any disease) which I understood as the effect of the 2 tabs of pain killer. It happened two times. And both times I made the same mistake in making my decision. Thus, obviously, I must try out Phosphorus fully first before trying to find out some other probable better fit. And, this is, in a nut shell, the result of the happenings of the last five years. It will not be a wise decision on my part now not to make its use first, that is, before starting doing anything afresh now.

2.During the course of the last one year or so, you have also suggested me, twice, to try out Phosphorus. This strengthens my above decision.

So I urge you to try Phosphorus fully now, before doing anything else. If Phosphorus does not work, you may look for other options.

As wanted by you, I will follow your instructions to the best of my ability/capability.

Pl reply early.

With due regards,

Prakash

Maheeru:

OK,Sir! Delay may be because I cant talk.Talking agg a lot. And I can find it through phone only by talking. But I will do my best.

Regds.

Prakash

Maheeru:

Do you know any store in or around Delhi which deals in LM potencies? I am trying to find it out myself also.

Prakash

Davidsmith:

Thanks, but may I know which topic you are referring to?

Prakash

Maheeru:

I have now got the source for LM potencies. It is: Hari Om Homeopathic Pharmacy, Shop No. 26, Sector 1 Market, RKPuram, New Delhi. (Ph.; 011-266150) for your records.

Further, latest development regarding my health is: I wrote out to you on 25/8/11 that now, I will follow your instructions to the best of my ability/capability and requested you to reply early – because I was suffering a lot. However, as I could not receive your reply too fast, I thought of continuing my medication in my own way till I receive your instructions for the ensuing phase of my treatment.

On 27/8/11 at 9.50 AM I took Phos 200 – one mouthful sip from the 20th glass, the way I have explained to you in my post dtd 22/8/11 (split dose). To my utter joy (and disbelief), all my agg vanished. I enjoyed a symptom-free time from 10 AM (27/8/11) upto 4 AM (28/8/11). Then started returning of symptoms and they became intolerable at 7.20 AM (28/8/11).

To make this amelioration (symptom-free) period a little longer (i.e. for about 24 hours), I took 2nd dose of Phos 200 - one mouthful sip from the 18th (instead of 20th) glass. I thought this would be just marginally more in the drug content. But this was not so. It proved to be much more. All the day and night (from 7.30 AM: 28/8/11 to 2.20 AM: 29/8/11) aggravation broke out in full might. It was hell. All the time I was rubbing (very hard) my left face from right hand at temple/cheek-bone/Joint of Jaws/cheek/lip. The pain was burning/boring/cutting/throbbing/lightening type, differently at different places, continually. Hard-rubbing also gave temporary relief for about 1 minute each time.

Then it became too much for me to continue. At 2.20 AM, without having had a trace of rest the whole and night, I badly felt the need for some sleep, may be for a few hours, may be while sitting in the chair. So I took one tablet of Mazetol 200 (pain-killer especially for Trigeminal Nreuralgia). Its effect started in about 2 hours. Then I slept in chair for an hour or so, then in the bed nicely. I got up at 9.30 AM. Ever since then I am absolutely fine, symptom-free except for some swelling in the left lower lip.

I am absolutely sure that this symptom-free period is due to the dose of Phos 200 and not because of the tab of Mazetol because the effect of Mazetol is always partial and lasts only 4-5 hours. This time I certainly don’t want to repeat my own earlier mistake in making a wrong inference which I had done two years ago.

Now I am not going to have any further medication of my own. I will be getting the Phos LM1 tomorrow. If I receive your further instructions by then, it would be great – because then I can take my first dose of Phos LM1 in the coming morning.

I have given all these details to you to enable you to fine-tune your dosing instructions. I seem to be very highly susceptible to Phos.

Awaiting your reply most anxiously and with due regards,

Prakash

Maheeru:

Obviously I have offended you. Perhaps because I thought I could use my way of treating myself myself till I get your instructions to follow, because I thought I could have followed your instructions only after getting them. My mistake. I beg your pardon. I am an honest (i.e. frank) person. At least so I try to be. Pl be sure I will follow your instructions seriously.

I will write again after a little later. Right now, I have two points to make clear:

1.I have got Phos LM1 in liquid form. How to proceed? Can I use one drop in stead of one granule to start with?

2.Can I use RO water in place of mineral water? Whichever is better, life-wise,I will use that.

Many many thanks for giving detailed clear cut instructions. Health-wise, I have been feeling much better during the last 2-3 days,almost symptom-free all the time.

With due regds,

Prakash

Maheeru:

On getting clarification on the two points, I will start with the first dose of Phos LM1 now. So I am waiting for your reply.

Today morning I started having some fine stitches at the left temple while washing my face, taking bath or walking in open air.

Regds.

Prakash

Maheeru:
As per your instructions, here is the report 7 days after taking the 1st dose of Phos.0/1.
A..HEALTH

1ST SPLIT DOSE OF PHOS-0/1 was taken at 9.00AM on 4/9/11. What followed is as follows.

(1).FROM 9.00AM ON 4/9/11 TO 2.35AM ON 8/9/11
Initial aggravation of symptoms. …Intensity increased gradually from tolerable to unbearable levels…. Had to take an allopathic pain killer ( Mazetol 200) – 1 tablet at 2.35 AM on 8/9/11….Morale (mental condition as of depression or elation) had been +5 (in the scale of -10 to +10) for many months. It suddenly raised to +6 from 6.00 PM on 6/9/11 till 9PM on 6/9/11 (i.e. for 3 hours). Then it became & remained +5.

(2).FROM 7.30 AM ON 8/9/11 TO 3.30 AM ON 9/9/11
Nil aggravation. Nil symptoms. Calm period.

(3).FROM 3.40AM ON 9/9/11 TILL THE TIME OF WRITING THIS REPORT
Morbid symptoms started rebuilding….gradually increasing in intensity till it became unbearable at 5.00AM on 10/9/11 and again at 10.30AM on 10/9/11 when I had to take pain killer (Mazetol 200) – 1 tablet….Disturbed sleep & very disturbed sleep during the nights ending in the mornings of 9/9/11 & 10/9/11 respectively, when morale was -1 & -2 ( in the scale of -10 to +10) i.e. depression and heart sinking feeling which remained so for a few hours on both days.

CONCLUSION
Obviously the effect/action of the dose started at 9.00AM on 4/9/11 and ended at 3.40AM on 9/9/11 i.e. the dose had its effect on the economy for slightly less than 5 days only.


B.REPETITION OF DOSE

As I promised you I want to follow your instructions seriously i.e. intelligently, with full conviction. Also, I had written that I am an honest (i.e. frank) person. I joined this forum for the sole purpose of treating myself as per the authorities of Homeopathy with the help of this forum. As you will appreciate this forum is “you” for me. I know my knowledge is limited and experience of my own only. Your knowledge and experience are far more. You have always been very kind to me to remove my doubts or clear my concepts in past. I seek the same patronage from you now and in future too. My present doubt is about the time when the next dose should be administered.

LEADING AUTHORITIES SPEAK LIKE FOLLOWS.

1.“Hahnemann’s usual teaching, the outcome of his long and rich experience, was to give a single dose and await its full action” – Stuart Close.

2.”The only rule which can be laid down with safety is to repeat the dose only when improvement ceases.” – Stuart Close.

3.”Repetition of the First prescription is indicated when the symptoms that had disappeared have reappeared thus indicating a set-back.” - M.L. Dhawale

4.”Thus, a mere condition of calmness after a series of changes is not all you want for repeating the dose. For giving a second dose, the return of the symptoms on which you made your first prescription is necessary, and when these have returned, the second dose should be given WITHOUT ANY FURTHER WAITING.” - ‘Chronic Disease: Its cause and cure’ by Dr. N. Ghatak

Kent and others also say the same thing. Thus, according to the leading authorities, I should have taken the second dose in the morning of 9/9/11. The unbearable pangs of pain, disturbed sleep and depression which I had to undergo after the morning of 9/9/11, to the tune that I had to take pain killer, were not required. Perhaps they should have been avoided for the cure to be “rapid, gentle and permanent”.

I feel the present dose was larger than infinitesimal. It may be decreased further so that the initial aggravation is not so much as to generate the need for taking allopathic pain killers. Naturally, in that case, its total action time will also become still lesser than 5 days, perhaps 4 days.

I hope you will not take me amiss because of the reasons I have already stated. I have yet not taken the second dose. I will take it on getting your reply and further instructions.

Hence, I feel I should need your reply as early as possible to you. Thus, awaiting your reply anxiously and with due regards,

Prakash
2.30AM : Sept. 11, 2011.

Maheeru:

I am waiting for reply most anxiously. The morbid symptoms have returned so much so that eating, drinking, talking, sleeping etc. have become difficult. I will take the second dose after your reply and further instruction reach me. Meanwhile, just for the sake of curiosity, I feel like asking a few questions.

1.This website origins from which country. It could not be India because I had sent my last post at 2.30AM: Sept.11. 2011 but, in the ribbon, it is shown as having been sent on Sept. 10, 2011.

2.Which country you belong to, which part of it? Actually whenever I write a post to you and want some information e.g. the source for LM potencies etc., I wonder as to whether you will really be able to help me. What types of question I should ask and what not. Also, you have helped me so much that at least I should know that much about you. Also, any other information about you which is allowable.

3.Please tell me also if I can add a few drops of Rectified Spirit in the medicinal solution to enhance its life. I am a pure non-drinker of alcohols.

Kindly do reply earliest. Thanking you,

Prakash
11.45PM: Sept. 11.2011

Maheeru:

As per your instructions, I took the second dose of Phos. 0/1 in the morning of 12/9/2011.

Thanks for your last two posts. But my one concept still remains needing-clarification. WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR ASCERTAINING THE TIME WHEN THE NEXT DOSE SHOULD BE ADMINISTERED? Please clear this concept to me.

Awaiting your reply anxiously,

Prakash
3.00AM: Sept. 13, 2011

Maheeru:

I am awaiting your reply please.

Prakash

11.30AM: Sept. 16, 2011