Allergy Induced Asthma _{Page 3 of 11}

I gave him Med 30C (8 taps) last night. In terms of taking the charcoal in the morning, should I also delay when I give him the juice and the quercetin he is taking?

I'll ask him about his constipation when he comes home from school. I have been asking him everyday about his stool as I always feel the stool changes are important to note. He keeps saying he's the same..but sometimes wording the question differently can help to elicit more specific information. I'm sure he is not too constipated or I would know.

I'll let you know how he feels today at school.

Thank you.

Doctor,
I am so very so, I just reread your note and notice you stated 7 taps and not 8 tabs. I did tab it 8 tabs...and they were good taps. It was late when I read your note and I was in a hurry so I could give it to my son before he went to bed.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I am totally in agreement with you that we need to keep my son in school and not at home. Thank you for being sensitive to his needs. Can you tell me in your experience, how long it takes the intestinal flora to complete its 'clean-up'?

Although I don't feel there has been much positives, I guess trying to look with rose colored glasses, I can faintly see improvement in congestion and cough.

His congestion is less...not blowing his nose as much. I will ask him how his congestion today compares with yesterday and the last few days. His cough is still there and as I stated earlier, there is now a little more mucous than before...kind of a shallow, soft rattling when he coughs...still sounds like a little bark. I would say he is not coughing as much though. I think his energy level is just so low.

What surprised me was when he said he felt hot and nauseous (although you think it might be the toxins being released)...I do know that he typically does not like taking any pills (other than his one a day vitamin) because they always seem to make him nauseous. What about him saying that he can't focus in class...this is something that he has never said in the past? I was attributing these to him taking on the particulars of the remedy -- which I saw as a potential indication that it may not be the correct remedy.

I have read, one example below, that charcoal does impact nutrients from being absorbed...that's why I asked.


Remember, activated charcoal can hamper the effect of other supplements and medication by absorbing nutrients. So, take it two hours before or after other products. If there is a case of suspected poisoning, consult a poison control center expert before contacting your family physician.

In terms of the dose...in all cases I have given him 2 tsp (maybe a little smaller since I use a plastic spoon). Let me know if I should reduce this.

No, I will not give anything without you telling me to do so.

The only question i have is in terms of the charcoal, since I did not give it to him this morning before school, should I give it to him when he comes home? If so, should it before, during or after dinner?

Thank you.

My son just got home. Here's what he has told me...

- Not nauseous today but after lunch had a stomach ache.

-- more energy than yesterday...maybe 50% of his normal.

-- his nose was dripping more profusely today

-- cough not changed and phlegm still the same

-- still hot today

-- mood unchanged from yesterday.

-- more thirsty today than typical.

I just gave him the charcoal and I will continue giving him 2 each morning (the bottle says to take 2 at each meal).

Thank you.

I should add that his stools were small and dark when he went last night.

He said his focus was the same... hard to do in class. He is still very moody and is negative....talking back etc.

I will continue as you have indicated and I will let you know how is day today goes.

No, Im not sure I can say mood changed but energy level increased.

I would definitely say that he is moody and irritable which is not his typical demeanor but I have seen him respond with other remedies. When he was young I remember when he would have allergies and was irritable I would give him belladonna and it would help him. Eventually, I tried to find something to help with the allergies instead of temp. fixing the problem.

I have seen this mood before and it is when he is having allergies, tired etc.

I will let you know how he is when he comes home today.
[message edited by l471530 on Thu, 01 Mar 2012 13:15:01 GMT]

I can definitely attest to the fact that his mood never improved. If you read our notes back and forth I mention improvement in energy level only and actually was pointing out that I wasn't sure if it was remedy vs. a virus he may have gotten getting better. Please note this response after his first dose.


Yes, you are right I am getting impatient and I try to keep reminder myself that it will take some time.

If in fact that increase energy level was due to the Med (again, not sure only because he has had the virus 7 days and folks say that with this virus they begin feeling better after 7 days but cough lasts up to 3 weeks) then I think staying with Med makes sense. I can only hope. I will plan to give him 5 tap dose tonight since you agree. Since I have read that if you begin to have dreams when taking a remedy that this is a sure tail sign that the remedy is working...I asked my son about his dreams and he stated that he has not been dreaming the last few nights. His body is just weak and that is frustrating him. He has gotten very moody and actually is not acting very nice at all (not his typical demeanor).

I'll keep you posted and thanks for the constant reminder not to be impatient.

I am so very sorry for any confusion...I thought I was being specific. Also look at my post after his 2nd, again no mention about improvement in mood...to the contrary.

Hope this helps. This is indicating that Med is not helping him...I was so very hopeful. I am wondering about some other possibilities but I do want this to work through his system.

Again, I'm sorry it wasn't more clear for you.

No, you are incorrect. His mood was most definitely changed from taking Med. All I said was that I have seen this before when my son was young and I would give him belladonna. Yes, you are right that it is not unusual for him to present moody...I just want to be certain you know that he was not moody before he got sick...well, maybe I should be think about this some more. In my post you will notice that I had been given my son Baryta Carb and definitely I notice the last time I gave him to him he did seem more moody.

I can say that his moodiness seem to get a little worse since the 1st dose of Med -- he's talking back under his breathe a lot and I don't think I ever remember him doing that before.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

As I have been trying to understand asthma, allergies and homeopathy, I have stumbled on this information which might be helpful...

From Kent...

http://homeoint.org/books2/kentnewr/natsulph.htm

1. Of such cases of asthma, although the text-books would discourage you if you should read them under asthma, because they will tell you that cases of asthma are incurable.

2. For years I was puzzled with the management of asthma. When a person came to me and asked : 'Doctor, can you cure asthma ?' I would say, 'No.'
3. But now I am beginning to get quite liberal on asthma, since I have learned that asthma is a sycotic disease, and since I have made judicious application of anti-sycotics, I have been able to relieve or cure a great number of such cases.
4. You will find in the history of medicine that wherever asthma was cured, it has been by anti-sycotic remedies. That is one of the first things I observed, that outside of sycotics you will seldom find a cure for asthma.
5. There is that peculiarity that runs through sycosis which gives you a hereditary disease, and asthma corresponds to that disease. Hence it is that Siliceais one of the greatest cures for asthma ; it does not cure every case, but when Silicea corresponds to the symptoms, you will be surprised to note how quickly it will eradicate it.
6. While Ipecac, Spongia, and Arsenicum will correspond just as clearly to the supervening symptoms and to everything that you can find about the case, yet what do they do ? They palliate ; they repress the symptoms ; but your asthma is no better off, your patient is not cured.
7. Arsenic is one of the most frequently indicated remedies for the relief of asthma ; so also are Bryonia, Ipecac, Spongia and Carbo veg., but they do not cure ; though they relieve surprisingly at times. Where a patient is sitting up, covered with a cold sweat, wants to be fanned by somebody on either side of the bed, dyspnoea is so distressing ; that it seems almost impossible for the patient to live longer, to get another breath, then Carbo veg. comes in and gives immediate relief and the patient will he down and get a very good night's rest. But what is the result ?
8. On comes the asthma again the very next cold. Natrum sulphuricum goes down to the bottom of this kind of a case. If it is hereditary, that is, not long lived, if it is in a growing subject, Natrum sulphuricum goes down to the bottom of such a case and will cure when its symptoms are present ; and the symptoms will so often be present.
9. It is because of this deep seated anti-sycotic nature, we find in the combination of Natrum and Sulphur, that we have a new state and combination running into the life. When the chest is filling up with mucus, rattling of mucus, expectoration of large quantities of white mucus, with asthmatic breathing in young subjects, this remedy must be thought of.


Common Asthma Medicines:
Acute: Arsenic alb, ANTIM TART, Cuprum met are commonly used
Constitutional Medicines: Calc, Kali, Natrum,Sil, Lachesis are used.
Mismatic Medicines: Thuja, Medo, Tub


I believe Herscu...
Remember that cases take time to work out with alternation of remedies to complete the asthma cure. Med to Thuj to Nat-s back to Med etc etc.


Dr. Luc...

Dr Luc de Schepper visited Sri Lanka a few weeks ago and I was able to follow a few cases which he treated of Asthma in 6 adults.

I notice that Svara has adviced that you use Nat Sulph 30c 4 times daily but I believe that this could be an overdose.

For what it is worth I shall detail the treatment that Dr Luc prescribed for Asthma and you may use it if you so desire. All I can say about this therapy is that in all cases it worked like magic.

He used Nat Sulph 6c and used just a few granules or pellets which he put into a 500 ml bottle of water from which he decanted 100ml. The water is potentized with the remedy by succussing it by hitting the bottle hard on the palm or a cushion 4 times. The water must fizzle like when a bottle of soda is opened every time it is succussed. This raises the potency of the remedy ever so slightly and this is more effective that taking just a teaspoonful from the bottle which is kept in the refrigerator and can be used for months.


A teaspoonful of the water is taken from the bottle for a dose after succussion and this teaspoonful is stirred into half a cup of water and a teaspoonful of the water from this cup is sipped just once daily.

I must admit that I was very sceptical about the possibility of any positive result from this extended and complicated method of preparation of the water but believe me, I was flabbergasted to discover that all the people who were on Inhalers some twice daily and steroid pills had what I can honestly term a MIRACLE CURE.


I would suggest that anyone with asthma uses this remedy which may seem rather complicated in its preparation as it has to be succussed and then stirred into a half cup of water. This is however a small price to pay to replace the inhalers and tablets used for Asthma.

If anyone who reads this post decides to use Dr Luc's therapy, I would appreciate if he records his reaction on this forum.

This will help others who suffer from Asthma to change over to this therapy.

I might add that Dr Luc emphasized that he was not the person who invented this therapy. It was Hahnemann the founder of Homeopathy who recorded this technique in his 5th edition of the Organon, the Bible of Homeopathy.

Personally, this point was reinforced the day after returning from the conference when I successfully prescribed Baryta carbonica for an adolescent boy who presented with a troublesome acute respiratory infection. His extreme shyness and sense of being overwhelmed at school were the hints I needed to find the remedy.

I would not be surprised if we need to look at Silicea, Nat-Sul or Thuja...which ever presents best with the picture of my son.

What do you think?

Just got home and here's what he shared.

-- Better mood today (talked on the way home). He was saying that he can study but he can't always recall the information even though he knows it. He does better if he can review right before the test...which obviously is not possible.
-- Better energy today
-- Cough is getting better
-- Congestion still there but nose not running today -- back to blowing but less.
-- Felt dizzy today while playing basketball in gym -- had to sit out for 5 minutes -- he did have a protein bar and energy drink before gym.
-- Stomach ache for a short time after lunch (he took his charcoal before he went to school but he doesn't take at school).
-- Yesterday late evening he was complaining about his lower legs hurting ...today shins are better but his achilles heel and just above it was hurting him.

Let me know if you have any questions, I will continue giving him his supplements.

Thank you.

Oh I forgot to mention his color...he is much improved. He has been as white as a ghost and today his color is back and he doesn't look so sick.

Doctor,
You are not understanding what I have written...as I noted in my reply to you after my son had his first dose and prior to his second dose, I did mention his mood change (see page 2)...this was my reply


EArlier post from Page 2...
Yes, you are right I am getting impatient and I try to keep reminder myself that it will take some time.

If in fact that increase energy level was due to the Med (again, not sure only because he has had the virus 7 days and folks say that with this virus they begin feeling better after 7 days but cough lasts up to 3 weeks) then I think staying with Med makes sense. I can only hope. I will plan to give him 5 tap dose tonight since you agree. Since I have read that if you begin to have dreams when taking a remedy that this is a sure tail sign that the remedy is working...I asked my son about his dreams and he stated that he has not been dreaming the last few nights. His body is just weak and that is frustrating him. He has gotten very moody and actually is not acting very nice at all (not his typical demeanor).

End of Post from Page 2.

I specifically state at the end that he has become moody and not acting very nice.
-- So this clearly indicates that I did mention much earlier and infact right after his first dose.

I have never mentioned that he was as white as a ghost this is true but he was white when I began this thread and it wasn't until now that his color is back to a good one...this start after he passed out from the shot which was the day before he came down with this cough and congestion.

His lower legs have hurt him before, typically we notice when he is growing. I asked him if it was the same sort of pain and he said yes.

I forgot to mention his thirst and did ask him about that...he said it was the same as yesterday which was the first day that he thought he notice a decrease in thirst.

He also just went #2 and told me that it was similar to yesterday...small balls and he said very dark in color.

I hope you now understand that I did try to tell you about his mood as I did believe that it was important because it was a change. Today his mood is more like I am use to.

Hope this helps. Thank you very much.

One last update for the evening...he went to bed at 8:00 p.m....can't remember when the last time he has done that. He said he was tired. I actually see this a good, since his body needs the extra sleep to aid in recovery.

Just wanted you to know.