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You are absolutely right, a new balance emerging right now requires a different medicine.
I appreciate your active participation. To make a search more correct and productive, I would like to advice to pay close attention not only to the symptoms alone, but to the AGE in connection to the symptoms. Your son is at the very particular stage of his life - puberty, and symptoms of young kids do not necessarily apply here.
I noticed a few signs of shifting to the Thuja state. I am listing them here, please, correct me or confirm:
- Desire to play alone (video, no sport practice),
- Irritability (still there?)
- Reserved, timid (does not engage, now more than before)
- Unhappiness (melancholy)
- Being cold (new, one time only, but there)
- Lack of energy, fatigue
- Food sensitivities (mostly milk, oranges belong to Med. Is he better in tolerating oranges now?)
- Abdominal pain
- Growing pains (legs)
- Going to bed early (new, one time only, but there)
We have to wait one more week before we can say that he is permanently in a new state ( one week for each dose of previous medicine); you noticed he tries to be himself, it is not over yet, remember, he has gone through aggravation.
 
Lylla last decade
I want to share that today, he is the same except I can tell that his acne is getting worse, now it spread to other cheek and the nose.

- Desire to play alone (video, no sport practice), Yes, I would say he wants to play alone...not sure if that is because he is not connecting with others...last year he moved to a new school...along with many from his old parochial school...and they all have new friends. But he seems to indicate that is what he prefers to play with friends on Xbox. He is also not being invited to other's homes so may be he's not connecting.

- Irritability (still there?) Yes, I would say that today he was talking a little more. Updated -- in the morning he seemed to be talking more and better disposition...when I picked him up later, after this initial post, he seemed back to the way he was before shot...not irritable or moody.

- Reserved, timid (does not engage, now more than before) I notice this in 5th and 6th grade (he's now in 8th), he tended to become more of a loner but when he is with kids he looks like he's having a lot of fun. He just isn't with other kids other than sports now.

- Unhappiness (melancholy) Yes, I would say he's not the happy person he use to be and is irritable. We use to go skiing and he doesn't even want to do this the last two years...he refused to go on trips that we use to do with another family and he always enjoyed. He for the first time, has been complaining about practices for basketball and soccer which he use to love.

- Being cold (new, one time only, but there) He's always had more of a cold nature I think...doesn't like cold water in a pool but at the same time, he doesn't like when its too hot either. Today he came home from a basketball game and he put his hood over his head again and said he was cold...he said its because he was drinking cold silk milk. In any event this is new.

- Lack of energy, fatigue Definitely he has less energy and gets fatigued quickly

- Food sensitivities (mostly milk, oranges belong to Med. Is he better in tolerating oranges now?) Milk is a definite no no and eggs seem to be bothering him again. Oranges I can't say for certain since he's been staying away from OJ and oranges.

- Abdominal pain -- hasn't complained of any. He says his stool is still black and small chucks since the Med. and Quercertin

- Growing pains (legs) -- Yes, definitely. He also has recently complained about his neck being sore too.

- Going to bed early (new, one time only, but there) Can't say much different...just not sure. Maybe he is doing on his own now and is tired where before we use to have to tell him to get to bed.

Also, I do want you to know that my son is short in stature and in size...thin and frail, and is an observer by nature...he may not engage but he's aware of what is going on. Although he is athletic, it is for speed, agility and quickness...muscular he is very weak. He has very dark, almost black hair and has freckles and moles. Also he has begun biting his nails, or at least putting his fingers into his mouth, this two years.

Thank you so much for being open to all my concerns and comments. I think this makes the most sense.

Not that I want to influence too much where you are headed but right now I feel like there's two things that happened here.

1.. I should have given my son Silicea instead of Baryta Carbonica. see excerpt below...my son is much more a Silicea than a BC.

Or

2. Baryta was correct and he is now moving to a more shut-down state (a phase IV remedy).


Except...
Silica is naturally shy, slow to warm up to new situations, and a natural observer. The Silica child is usually intelligent with advanced development and a quick mind. The child can sum up a situation quickly and give perceptive comments about people. But, there is a stubborn tendency to hang back, watch, and delay their own participation in a new environment. This can give people the impression that the child is slow, but the Silica child is actually quite sharp and sensitive to the surroundings. Because of this tendency to be inconspicuous, the child can be misunderstood by parents. Their perceptivity and natural intellect may even go unnoticed by parents who are less bright than the child or distracted by their own lives.
These children are usually capable and talented, though their withdrawing tendencies slow them down both socially and within the family. It takes a sensitive parent to understand the Silica child, bring out the child's strengths, and to give her/him the room needed to express clearly.
Injuries may cause symptom expression in these Silica children. Emotional trauma may cause them to become more withdrawn. The Silica child may even have difficulty talking to adults or other children. They retreat to their creative activities, and though everyone agrees that they are sweet and cooperative, they develop an aloofness that can be impenetrable to all but the most inquisitive and patient adults around them.
Baryta carbonica, by contrast, is much more afraid. The world is more threatening to these children and they are in hiding. The Baryta carbonica child will hide behind the mother's skirt in a new environment or even when making transitions to familiar places. When family friends arrive at the house, the child will hide behind the couch. At school the child may sit on the edge of the playground throughout the entire recess or a preschooler may sit curled up in a cubby space and require the teacher's entreaties and coaxing to enlist participation in the class. These children do not feel safe in the world. They are sometimes just not bright enough to figure it out. It all seems new and unfamiliar to them and they seem unsophisticated, awkward, unprepared, afraid, and bewildered. This is in sharp contrast with the sophistication of Silica, Natrum muriaticum, and even Phosphorus.


My gut is leaning towards the first...Silicea should have been prescribed not Baryta...at that particular time.


Lack of Vital heat...Silicea and Thuja.

Also I've read that Thuja may have inflated egos with an ability and tendency towards performance. Although my son plays a lot of sports, one of his biggest problems is that he does not have an ego and lacks confidence.

Here's a comparison between Silicea and Thuya
Borland states that “all Thuja patients are truthful, scrupulous in everything they do” – i.e. they are so deceptive you will think they are being honest. Thuja is also a Silica look-alike. Silica can degrade into Thuja. Thuja is more deceptive however, they may have a hidden or secretive, private life. Thuja is an actor, a chameleon remedy, a different person in different circumstances. They are morally correct, can be closed and present as perfectly symmetrical with not a hair out of place. Although I know Justin will some times not tell the truth about his homework being done etc...he isn't really that deceptive. He definitely has been not very honest with things I always took for granted...homework and other thing to prevent from doing work.


I also read this...which may indicate that my son could have received Silicea instead of Baryta but now he's turning into a Thuja...
In a more Sycotic way, Silicea can be found in top sports: in well-defined structures he works towards a record. They set high standards, train very hard, disciplined and efficient, but they are very insecure: “Can I do it, do I have the right competences?” Infections and asthma often occur. Kent declared that Natrium Sulphuricum and Silicea might provide a structural cure for asthma. Complementary to Silicea in an acute situation, is Thuja, a typically Sycotic medicine, or Pulsatilla, also Sycotic with Medorrhinum on the background.


In any event, I have no idea but I'm leaning towards either Silicea or Thuja as maybe the remedy he should take next...with the idea that Thuja may be a complentary to Silicea i acute...this may make some sense. The more I read the more I get confused.


If you need additional information, please let me know.

Thank you.
[message edited by l471530 on Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:23:39 GMT]
 
l471530 last decade
I wanted to mention something else my son does a lot...it became very apparent to me a few years ago. When he talks with me, especially when I am helping him study or he is explaining something that has happened to him etc., he must walk around in circles as he is speaking. He said to me this year, he thinks that is also why he may not test as well as he should because he can't recall the information when he can't move around.

About the same time, a few years ago, I also found I must continue to tell him to sit down while we are eating. He likes to get up and play with a ball and then come back to the table. I always that this was interesting since he was always my more attentive child and I never had these problems when he was young...I'd say about 5th grade I began to see changes like these as well as the social changes I have discussed -- I won't say these were not there earlier, just not as obvious.

Please let me know how I should proceed. Thank you.
 
l471530 last decade
Doctor,
I have not heard from you...are you still working on my case?

My son sounds much better today...cough is almost gone.. he says his energy level is about 95% back to where it was before his virus and fainting spell. Still has acne which just has gone wild the past few weeks....they are small and red but many on both cheeks and nose.

I told him to stop taking the Charcoal to see if his stool will come back to normal. Also, he will continue his vitamins, Quercetin and B12.

Should I plan to give him Thuja?

Thank you.
 
l471530 last decade
Update on my son...
tonight he said that he can't sleep and he keeps feeling like he has a to go number 1 but he can't go...sometimes a little trickle comes out but that is it. This happened to him before a few months ago (can't be certain when). He complained for a few days maybe a week.

Are you still there, Doctor?
 
l471530 last decade
Just noticed your earlier comment regarding waiting a week. My son has last day of school this friday and all next week off. If we could start something when he is off that is good. Also, if you have some ideas of why remedies I should have on hand, in case they are needed I can make sure I get them so I don't have to wait another week to get them.

No cough again this morning...sounds better, still seems back to the way he was before passing out and remedy.

Thank you.
 
l471530 last decade
I am here, of course, and watching.
Please, do not worry, I am not going to leave you. I promissed you more positive changes, they are happening. The best thing is to wait for 4 - 6 weeks, not just for 3. I know it is not easy to wait, but we need to let the medicine finish its course before tuning the Vital Force again. I did not come to a complete decision on a new medicine yet. We would need to re-evaluate the case in the end of 4 - 6 weeks. The current plan is Thuja 30C, which you have, but it may be changed, depending on how it unfolds.
I am happy with the changes, please, report often, even though you do not see much of response from me, I am there. I am intersted to learn about new symptoms.
 
Lylla last decade
Please, give B12 only once, only in the morning. If you give it later in the day, it might be responsible for the lack of sleep. Also, decrease the dose of B12 twice. Acne is another type of discharge, sign of Med working.
 
Lylla last decade
He is taking B12 in the morning - 1 under tongue along with Multivitamin and Quercertin -- all in the morning before leaving for school.

You have not answered any of my questions...I'd like to be able to start something soon so we can take advantage of the week my son is off from school. tomorrow is his last day of school. Is this not possible?

I think the only change I really have seen, other than typical virus reaction, that I can absolutely associate with Med is that he got cold on two occasions and put his hood over his head and his acne. Other changes may or may not been associated with Med since these were going on while he had his virus.

He has pretty much been better since picking him up on 2/13 from school. Definitely by 2/14 his irritability was completely gone but so too was his virus. He did have the urination problem which he only has had one other time (maybe induced from an earlier remedy) this did happen for one night and has was not repeated yesterday at all. The reason he could not sleep was due to his urination problem.

I am getting recommendation for Justin to take Thuja ad Nat Mur together to work together...thoughts?
 
l471530 last decade
Justin's mood again today was good. He played a basketball game tonight and he looked quick and stamina was pretty good. His stamina has not been as good the last 2+ years but he seemed to get some of it back...not quite 1/2 of what he lost.

No urination problem, no cough or congestion, legs did not hurt today...he seems to be doing well.

Acne on one cheek looking like its clearer up and the other cheek (with the newer acne) looks like its still quite red.

Please tell me your plan.

Thank you kindly.
 
l471530 last decade
I already answered that we need to wait. These are Laws of Classical Homeopathy: 1.You can give only one medicine at a time, so do not mix Thuja and NatMur. 2.You can not give medicine until the previous medicine STOPPED working in ALL DIRECTIONS. Until a patient progressing (however slowly), you CAN NOT give any medicine.
Are you sure it stopped? You can harm him if you rush and push. Most homeopaths give it from 4 to 6 weeks. He had only 3. I am sorry we have to waist free from school week, but it is important.
After 4-6 weeks the case should be re-evaluated, means you have to submit all symptoms again plus the chief complaint. It is important, since the symptoms had changed due to Med. New picture will point to the new remedy. I can not say anything earlier than that.
 
Lylla last decade
So you are saying that Med worked and since he has not relapsed, then we would not look to give again with more taps?

So do I try in a few weeks to give him something, like milk to see if his allergy has been corrected?

Will you let me know when I do provide additional information?

At least we are moving in a positive direction.

Thank you very much!
 
l471530 last decade
Yes, you a mostly correct. Here is what you have to do:
1. During next 2 weeks please collect observations on how often does he use his inhaler in comparison to 2+ years ago (time before fainting spells).
2. I would not cause a prvocation with any food he was allergic to until you can say he does not use his inhaler anymore (asthma is gone). It 's because his asthma did appear later than food allergies, and according to the laws of healing, has to disappear before food allergies. Giving him food allergens right now is not justified and can cause suffering.
 
Lylla last decade
Today my son's acne is getting even worse again. The good cheek has new acne and old is getting red and inflamed...more on other cheek and now spreading to his chin.

My son never had acne until I gave him Baryta. Med seemed to make it much, much worse, thought it was getting better the last few days but not today -- it hasn't gotten even much worse-- hard to believe. It really is quite bad...one cheek there must be a hundred plus pimples.

Today he said he's been letting out silent stink bombs...i witnessed when I picked him up today...very very bad sick odor. No change in his diet.

Mood - the same. upbeat.

I do need to make clarification regarding inhaler. My son use to be on a lot of medicines and two different types of inhalers. Once I began using homeopathy a few years ago, he is only using one -- abuterol -- and it is not for allergy related asthma but for sports. He uses when he plays sports.

Environmental Allergies the past few years makes him tired, less energy stamina and moody etc. but he does not use his inhalers for that at all. Food allergies, he gets a little wheezy and congested but he never has taken inhaler for that as he just has tried to avoid foods and when it happens it tends to dissipate after a day or two.
 
l471530 last decade
I have just read that some people break out with acne with B12, especially high dose (which 5,000 is most definitely high)-- I think Justin's acne getting worse may not be from Medorr but from B12. He takes one a day...and it is a very high level.

Acne must be controlled otherwise he could end up with pitting which is not okay.
 
l471530 last decade
I remember in one of the previous replies I asked you to reduce B12 dose twice. It seems you did not do it. It is easy to do: take a lozenge, put it in the bottle with spring water, dissolve, give him only a half of bottle to drink.
About albuterol inhaler. When he plays sports, he is forced to breath harder than normal. His airways constrict in response to that. People who do not asthma do not have this reaction. This means he has asthma, it is being provoked by hard breathing. This means he uses his inhaler to control asthma. I am interested to know if he uses his inhaler same or less frequently in comparison to 2+ years ago. Could you, please, make such observations during next 2-3 weeks? It would be very helpful in terms of symptoms.
We can not control acne now when previous medicine is still working. Suppressing acne will reverse healing and induce asthma again.
 
Lylla last decade
They do sell 1,000mg of B12 should i get that for him instead of 5,poo mg. I do remember your post...I did not understand what you meant by dose twice...this is a very new term -- I will make sure he does this...but again, I know that they sold the same B12 in 1,000 mg -- would that be better for him?


I'll keep you posted on inhaler use.

Also, we went to dinner this evening with his aunt and grandparents (from out of town) and they commented that they never saw him look so tired. He does seem more tired today...although they don't know what he looked a few weeks ago. Also, he was tapping on the menu and kept wanting to have his hands in motion. Is this from B12 or Med?

So we can't use anything on his acne? If its from the Med, how long should this happen for. From my general reading I thought when new symptoms arrived that you need to reconsider either increasing does (proving the remedy) or select another remedy? This is new in that he never had acne problems before homeopathy.
 
l471530 last decade
Hands tapping is not Med symptom. I am not even sure if it can be called a symptom yet. Let us see if it persists. Acne will go away when digestive problems/food allergies go away. They will stay with him for as long a long time. You said previously they appeared before Med, they just have gone wild. It is not bad, it is a sign that Med works. Yes, you can give 1000mcg lozenge, but be sure it has folic acid in it, and usually they put more junk into them than into 5000mcg lozenges.
 
Lylla last decade
I just wanted to clarify about acne. I said it is a sign of Med working, because the healing process includes pushing symptoms by the body from vital organs to the surface. And this is exactly what is happening. Acne is not his new symptom, it will be taking care of eventually, so, please, do not worry about that.
 
Lylla last decade
In terms of the B12, I have read that you can cut the Sublinguals in half. Are you okay with me doing that?

Also, when you say the acne will be there a long time..how long do you mean? If self esteem is already a problem why make it worse? My daughter had many related issues and homeopathy and never had 1/100th of the acne problem my son is experiencing...this is now severe. When he first got it with Baryta, it was bad but it was more than acceptable, this is now the type you say, poor thing he is going to have problem the rest of his life and with possible pitting. This seems pretty extreme for such a short period of time.

In any event, yes I want him to be happy first and foremost, do the things he loves to do and enjoy life...acne only becomes a major problem if it affects any of these...I'm not sure yet if they do for him.

I'll be more patient but wonder if there is at least topical things I could be doing...arnica on cloth, aloe vera plant etc.

Today, he was singing in the shower...that is good to hear.

Thank you.
 
l471530 last decade
Today my son has begun to cough again...the same one as before.. it's like he tries to clear his throat again. My son said he just started this morning. It seems as though as the day progresses it is becoming more frequent.

BTW, my son only took 1/2 of 5,000 B12 today.
 
l471530 last decade
Cough continues and he's beginning to get irritable today.
 
l471530 last decade
Also good color is completely gone...more pale and under his eyes are dark and he looks like he does when he is sick and run down.
 
l471530 last decade
Looks like a true relapse.
Time to continue with Med 30C then. Please, give it to him only ONCE, then wait and describe what happens.
Dosage: use 8 taps as before, but this time, please, use a SECOND dilution glass. Which means, do exactly as earlier, but instead of giving him 2 teaspoons directly, stir them into a second cup of water and from that give only one teaspoon in the mouth.
And again, please, do not worry about acne, they are temporary, not a life sentence, Med should fight them.
 
Lylla last decade
I gave him remedy as you prescribed on the evening of 2/20.

The morning of 2/21 -- he was still coughing and within a few hours his cough was gone. His face is still on the pale side and his eyes still have dark circles. His mood may have improved slightly...at best

2/22 -- No changes noted at all. Mood still not good.
 
l471530 last decade
Please, repeat the dose same way as it was described on 20th.
It looks this dose does not cause aggravations and we can apply it again. Then stop and report. The goal is to determine how close we can apply 2 doses without aggravations.
 
Lylla last decade

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