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Hello David,
I have fever/flu. Got it from my son I think. After 20 years I have fever. I just asked my wife for some medicine, she told me to die.
We will fight David ! Do not worry. We will reduce clonazepam to zero.
Lets fight smart.
You are the only friend I have.
Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
CI 30c is working again NOW.

CI 30c was covering all the symptoms of benzo withdrawal symptoms ( about 26 OF THEM), while I was tapering.

That is why it is the correct remedy.

I understand that you are looking only at halucinations and trying to give stramonium or Absinthium.

I want to try 30c CI or 200c CI again and cut down 7%.

But I need your support.

If I get bad symptoms, I need your support.

Please help me, David.

David, Help my husband.
Bapi and LovePeace
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Alright, so what is happening now? How is the Cannabis working exactly?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear Dr.david,

1. When I take clonazepam everyday, I suffer. The symptoms are some of the following :

Hypnagogic hallucinations, uncontrolled thoughts of accident, Physical work leading to stress, mental worry leading to stress (MW4),mental pressure created by others, Faint feeling / dizziness, Headaches with skull pain, Headaches with skull burning, Pressure felling in head neck region also called occupit (OO9), Feeling of Inflammation in the skull(FS10), Elevated general anxiety (GA11), Panic attack (PA12), raynaud syndrome (RS13), Getting angry leading to higher stress (AS14), convulsion (CC15), shaking of hands and head (SH16), Trembling (TT17), Twitching of muscles (TM18), Lack of control of mind lost thoughts(LC19), startling (SS20), serious generalized anxiety situation(SG21), heavy head (HE21), skin rashes(SR22),vertigo(VV23),Tinnitus(TT24), Condition of Reduced ability to take stress (RA25), irritable bowl syndrome(IB26).

2. When I taper clonazepam, I have more sufferings of the same symptoms list given above. The intensity is very high and it is unbearable.

3. When I take CI 30c, almost all of the symptoms listed above are disappearing temporarily for few days.

4. If I have to taper clonazepam, then I need support from you regularly so I can fight off the symptoms.

5. If you dont talk to me for even 1 day, then I am going to be in deep trouble.

6. When I taper the next 7%, I need full support.

7. Also do you remember the point my wife mentioned a few days ago?

I need to start tapering, for that I need ful;l support.

Yogiram


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yogiram 9 years ago
Can you try taking a repeat dose of the Cannabis just as the symptoms relapse.

I cannot always be on here every day. I will try to keep an eye on things but this will always be an issue on a forum like this. Even in my own clinic I don't have the resources to have daily patient contact.

Let me know if any dose of 30c does not improve the symptoms.

Also, for reports and follow ups, try to give me vivid and colourful descriptions of symptoms and thoughts and experiences always. This helps me to decide if you are moving towards a new remedy.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
From Evocationer
on 2015-04-09
Alright, so what is happening now? How is the Cannabis working exactly?

1. When I take clonazepam I suffer. What are my symptoms? Collection of symptoms listed below

2. What is the way to solve this health crisis? Stop clonazepam gradually.

3. What is the problem to stop clonazepam gradually? Serious symptoms shows up and it gets impossible to taper clonazepam

4. So ! what is the solution? Solution was Cannabis Indica 30c to reduce first 33% of clonazepam

5. Why I am not using the same CI 30c to reduce clonazepam? Answer : Antibiotics taken during tooth abscess ANTIDOTED Cannabis Indica action.

6. How do I know Cannabis Indica 30c will work again? Answer: CI 30c again worked when used after few weeks

7. Am I sure CI 30c will work again? Answer : CI 30c effect wears off within 4 to 14 days. If I take CI 30c again And again if CI 30c works then I can confirm CI 30c still works.

8. What is my worry now? Answer : Even if CI 30c works there can be new symptoms coming up during next taper. Usually these symptoms are very strong. I need support via homeopathy to control the situation.
I want you to agree with a decision and go for a treatment

9. How do I get in touch with you when I need you? When tapering last time you were with me everyday.

10. Usually while tapering List of symptoms that disturbed me in the last 17 years disturbs me. Let me write that list.
These are NOT current symptoms. These are symptoms that will disturb me when I go for slow taper and homeopathy help is not proper / adequate

Hypnagogic hallucinations, uncontrolled thoughts of accident this is a hallucination when awake , scary images, Physical work leading to stress, mental worry leading to stress , Faint feeling / dizziness, Headaches with skull pain, Headaches with skull burning, Pressure felling in head neck region also called occupit , Feeling of Inflammation in the skull, Elevated general anxiety , Panic attack , raynaud syndrome , Getting angry leading to higher stress , convulsion , shaking of hands and head , Trembling , Twitching of muscles , Lack of control of mind lost thoughts, startling , serious generalized anxiety situation, heavy head , skin rashes,vertigo , Condition of Reduced ability to take stress , irritable bowl syndrome.
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Okay I will try CI 30c as you asked me to do

Your recommendations are

1. Can you try taking a repeat dose of the Cannabis just as the symptoms relapse.

2. Let me know if any dose of 30c does not improve the symptoms.

3. Also, for reports and follow ups, try to give me vivid and colourful descriptions of symptoms and thoughts and experiences always. This helps me to decide if you are moving towards a new remedy.
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear david,
this is lovepeace. Since 30c worked and my husband could cut down 33%, he should try 200c.

The only reason, 30c action went away is because of antibiotics.

If he tries 200c, he would be able to cut another 33%.

He cannot all the time, be worried.

When 30c works, 200c will work.

I have always good intuition about my husband's health.

I have saved him several times.

Be bold, pray to God and with your blessings, he should go for 200c.

Please let us know.

Thx
LovePeace
 
LovePeace 9 years ago
I can only take CI 200c when David allows me to take CI 200c.Patients can have intuitions, but homeopath directs us to take remedies based on their knowledge and experience. I, as a patient can not go forward with the treatment even if 200c works.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Keep the 200c handy, but I want to make sure we have used up the 30c completely before moving on.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear david,
we got you after a very long time.

My husband cut down 33% because of you.

I know how you came up with stramonium.

It is a complimentary of CI.

It is in the materia medica.

You know lot of things.

The action of 30c is very short.

He will not be able to taper.

Whenever 30c works, 200c will work.

I am a billion percent confident, he will feel much better with 200c and be able to cut even 50%. But he can do 33%.

Dearest david, please go for 200c.

My Hhusband has lost his career totally.

We don't have much time.

Thx
LovePeace
 
LovePeace 9 years ago
Dear david,
Since dec.2014, my husband has taken ci 30c, more than 30 times.

The action stays from 12 hours to 14 days.

The 2nd time, he took ci 30c, he could taper 33%.

After antibiotics, the ci 30c doesn't work as effectively as it used to.

More than anybody else, you know david, when 30c works, 200c will work.

Then 1M, etc.,

Please let him try 200c.

What is the point in lying down, doing nothing and chatting and sleeping?

We know 200c will work Because 30c worked well.

Why not try? We don't have much time.

We are not going to lose anything.


I have cough still, I am going to work. I got the job with the cough.

I did a new course during the height of my cough.

Life is about being active, not sleeping And lying down.

Please kindly let us know how to take 200c.

Anyway, he lies down, might itself take 200c and lie down.

Thanks
LovePeace
 
LovePeace 9 years ago
Dear david,

Please also let us know after how many days, it can be repeated, I mean, 200c.

Remember, 30c worked the 2nd time, not the first time.

Thanks in advance!!!

I would rather try and get well instead of lying down and doing nothing.

Thx
LovePeace
 
LovePeace 9 years ago
Dear David,

Should I try twice a day CI 30c before taking CI 200c.

When I take 200c how do I take?
1. how many taps 5 or 10?
2. how many drops 2 or 3 ?
3. In how many ml of water?

CI 30c is having a very soft NOT as significant effect.

Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
200c how to take, how many days to take

Dear David,
CI 30c was not working. I took two spoons from CI 200c 2drops after 5 taps in 100ml water.

How many days can I can take CI 200c in row. I know you want me to stop after aggravation.

I also observed Stramonium As a complementary remedy of CI. Actually I see my problem is

1. Neurological hypersensitivity because of benzo administration.

2. That kinda leads to soarness and inflammation of head in a condition of anxiety.

3. This looks like a problem of poor blood circulation from constricted blood vessels from stress / anxiety.

4. All this problem is very common to benzo taker, my current problem of hallucination, inflammation / swelling of head, headache, dizzyness sounds like problem from poor blood circulation resulting from inflammation.

And when I am looking at complementary remedies of Cannabis indica ...Belledona looks very good. I do not know homeopathy but love to help me my helping you to select remedies.

You cured me with 33% with the 1st step reduction , please take care of me for the rest my problem. I lost 17 years of my life.

This is also a help to millions of people who are trapped by doctor prescribed benzos. My case when successful will show the path to millions of sufferers like me.

Please help me.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
One dose only of 200c. Wait 4-5 days before assessing the overall response.

I haven't ever heard of Stramonium being consider complementary to Cannabis, although I can see how some symptoms would be similar in the mental state (some fear/terror intersections and hallucinatory symptoms). Belladonna, Hyoscamus, Opium are generally listed, although I have seen Medorrhinum and Thuja in my own clinic definitely. I don't rely on mechanical methods for choosing remedies anyway.

IF it is necessary to move to a new remedy, the case needs to be retaken and all information (modalities, sensations etc.) updated. I can't work off the old information as the use of Cann-i and the interference by the antibiotics will have changed the picture.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear David,
I will report you after 5 days.
Special thanks for the discussion.
Thank you.
Bapi.
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Hello David,
1. CI 200c taken three days now, first day i felt there is some good effect.

I think I antidoted with indian curry powder, can I repeat CI 200c one more time.
We need to make sure CI 200c is working or not. Only once (5 taps, 2 drops in 100ml) may have not worked.We should repeat...

2. I am preparing a document if you have to rethink and retake the case as you indicated before.

Please do not work on remedy selection before I give you the document.

Please let me know if I can repeat CI 200c.
Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,
CI 200c worked

2nd and 3rd day after CI200c was aggravation. Approx 36 hours very strong aggravation with higher generalized anxiety and some specific symptoms.

After 3 days I felt better, started taper 8% this time.

Now I am 5 days on taper.
I have to keep this taper for around 30 days to make the taper permanent.

Serious question is how do I take the next dosage of CI 200c. CI 200c has to work everyday to keep the taper. Looks like it will take couple of days for the CI 200c to kick in action.

First time I took 2drops after 5 taps in 100ml water, 2 spoons under tongue 30 secs then swallow.

How do I make a quick acting longer serving CI 200c, can you tinker with tap no or amount of water or something else.

Fight goes on. David! we will win. And with me thousands of people who are reading our posting will find a path to recovery.

Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
If you taper immediately after the improvement starts, you will almost certainly become worse and we won't be able to track the progress of the remedy.

You need to be more patient. Wait longer. Improvement from a 200c will continue over several weeks.

Once the improvement has stabilized (however many doses that might take) then you can start tapering off again.

It is perfectly normal for improvement to happen only after a few days, and certainly only after an aggravation has occurred. There is no need to push it any harder. Doing so can ruin any positive results.

Once 7 days have passed, we can assess the symptoms again and see what would be the most appropriate next step.
[message edited by Evocationer on Mon, 20 Apr 2015 06:41:54 BST]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear David,
CI 200c effect faded away.
Please let me know how should I take CI200c next.
Last time I did

5 taps, 2 drops in 100ml ..2 spoons under tongue.

6 days good effect stayed after 3 days of aggravation.
Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

Just please tell me if can take the next dosage of CI 200c. I am in the middle of 2nd taper to be establised. It takes 3 weeks minimum to establish a taper.

I can not even updose the clonazepam now, in the middle of the taper I can only use homeopathy.

I remember in case of Lycopodium 200c my homeopath told me I can not repeat before 21 days.

This is not a disease ! That is why it can be cured before we zero in clonazepam. This is a hazard. This hazard is cased by intaake of a chemical (a prescription med) clonazepam.

Lets cure the disease then taper, this is not applicable here. CI 30c does not work now. But CI 30c helped me to establish 33% taper. Idea is suppress symptoms and taper. We are using CI 200c now, please help me to suppress my withdrawal symptoms and help me to taper.

I have a feeling clonazepam itself antidotes CI. Why? because Initially CI works very well. But the effect does not stay for a long time. That is why we need to repeat CI 200c

Once more time !! my question is can I repeat CI 200c now.

Thank you.
bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
It is a disease. All disease comes with symptoms, symptoms represent disease. This may be an iatrogenic disease (a disease that comes from medical treatment), that is possible, however I doubt that is all it is. Even iatrogenic disease exploits natural weaknesses in an individual, and the chronic or constitutional state will be seen clearly amongst the pure drug symptoms. We cannot pick and choose what we cure - there is one vital force, and when it is in distress we try to put it back into balance.

Considering how difficult it is to taper, if you wish to continue and use the medicine to address the side effects, I am happy for you to take the 200c again each time the symptoms return. Give me weekly updates though, emphasizing any NEW symptoms that appear or any current symptoms that do not improve.

Make sure you take the Cann-i only in response to symptoms appearing rather than trying to anticipate when you would need it.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
trying to distribute daily dosage in 3 parts instead of 2 parts. start time. 9pm cst. apr 26th. due to low half life of clonazepam it is recommended to take 3 times a day.
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

(My question is in the last paragraph)

How are you. It is a new life having a 2 month old puppy at home.

Apr 12th, 2015 I took my 1st dosage of CI 200c. I have not taken any more CI 200c after that.

All literature of benzo withdrawal I read says I should divide my dosage of clonazepam in 3 parts in a day if I have to taper. Before I was taking clonazepam twice a day.

Actually clonazepam half life is 18 hours. If I take clonazepam every dosage after 8hours then stress level in my system alters less COMPARED TO taking one dosage every 12 hours.

Less alteration of anxiety is associated with frequent administration of clonazepam. It is very good for anxiety patient if there is less alteration of anxiety level.

People who takes benzo has every little capacity to take stress. Medicine aided stress level increases by the end of dosage time. 1st hour of 12 hour per dosage is low stress time. 11th hour of 12 hour per dosage is high stress time. This high and low is extremely bad of an anxiety patient. This high low is less when we can take and survive clonazepam more frequently but same amount of milligrams everyday. That is why 8hours per dosage is better than 12hours per dosage keeping total daily dosage constant.


Before I took CI 200c I tried few times to change from 2 times a day to 3 times a day. I failed before. I am delighted to say I can take the same total daily dosage in three parts during the day. This is a big achievement, a major step of tapering. Last few weeks I could establish 3 times a day dosage or 8hours per dosage.

Point I am trying to make is I am probably in better condition stress / anxiety wise because I could do 8hours per dosage. This better condition is most probably from the 1st dosage of CI 200c.

(just making sure I tell u: 2 dosage per day, 3 dosage per day in both cases total mgs per day is same / equal).

It is almost 25 days since I took my 1st dosage of CI 200c. I really do not know if at all CI 200c is working anymore. Have a feeling effect faded away but the first dosage allowed me to establish 3 dosage per day. And first dosage cured my overall health problem to some extent.
Now I want to taper, when I start tapering I have to keep the same daily dosage constant for 3 weeks to 1 month. Still I could taper 33% of clonazepam since I started tapering from Dec 2014.

Question : Do I take one more(2nd dosage) dosage of CI 200c before I start taper? Taking CI 200c in the middle of a taper wont be as good I think. Please advice.

Thank you.
Bapi
[message edited by yogiram on Wed, 06 May 2015 16:15:26 BST]
[message edited by yogiram on Wed, 06 May 2015 16:43:47 BST]
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,
I am suffering. Please help me. Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago

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