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White Bumps In Throat
My husband has some white bumps in his throat that I can see by him opening his mouth wide. They're just behind nasal entry where the "dingley ball" hangs. Can anyone tell me what it might be. He's been trying to pick at them to scrape them off and notices some bleeding when he uses a q-tip.Please advise.
~Sonya
Sonya on 2004-03-24
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We need a sight more SYMPTOMS to even try to answer. How did he discover them? Has he had some sort of illness that he has recovered from? Try to tell us something about him...surely this is not the only thing he has around his Uvula? Lay off the q-tips, you could cause harm...For now, gargle with salt water and give use some SYMPTOMS...Sabra
♡ sabra 2 decades ago
I'm not sure what to provide for symptoms. They just seemed to appear. He hasn't recovered from anything; however, he's going through a lot of stress. I don't think that the bumps have to do with that though. The white substance that he's extracted, seems to have a very disgusting stench to it!! Is it some sort of solid bacteria?
Sonya 2 decades ago
Have you not gone to the doctor for a blood test or throat culture??? He may have picked something up from somewhere. Is he resistant and not cooperative. One does not play with things with a qtip, but find out what it is. It could be nothing, or the forunner of something serious.
Is it worse on one side or the other? Is it painful? Is there any fever? It is good to know about the smell. He definately needs a throat culture or at least looked at.
Mercurius corr is used quite often for the mouth with white ulcers. Although this that you describe in in the extreme throat. ECHINACEA is used often for ulcerated sore throat. As Echinacea (homeopathic) corrects blood conditions, this may be one to begin with. I am leaning toward Ech. because of the smell...Sabra
Is it worse on one side or the other? Is it painful? Is there any fever? It is good to know about the smell. He definately needs a throat culture or at least looked at.
Mercurius corr is used quite often for the mouth with white ulcers. Although this that you describe in in the extreme throat. ECHINACEA is used often for ulcerated sore throat. As Echinacea (homeopathic) corrects blood conditions, this may be one to begin with. I am leaning toward Ech. because of the smell...Sabra
♡ sabra 2 decades ago
I have the same thing for about 12 years now. They come and go without any reason. I have gone to the Dr. with no resolution. The stench from them is horrible. Sometimes they become quite large, where I can actually feel them there with the back of my tongue. If anyone out there knows what could be the cause of this please advise. By the way, Echinacea does absolutely nothing for it.
Mark
Mark
markg 2 decades ago
Yep, all of my family gets those. We called them "stinkballs". I was convinced they were part of my brain. They are bacteria. I eventually had my tonsils removed and they stinkballs never returned. The surgery however was quite painful.
giddy 2 decades ago
I get the same thing. Right in the tonsills. I can feel them when they get larger. I'm able to use my index finger to push(kinda squeezeing) back against tonsill and they'll pop out when big enough or I use a little pick to go up into cavity to dislodge the white calcium looking smelly what ever the hell it is out. Be very careful though that tissue is very delicate back there & you can easily nick the tonsill which will bleed. You'll get the hang of how to use the pick & as to how those cavitys are shaped back there & where these little buggers begin there formation. I'll get them after I drink alcohol say the next day, or before I catch a cold, or they just appear out of know where & I feel somthing deep in the back of my throat. Tell you the truth I CAN'T BELIEVE THESE doctors or who ever they are on this site have never heard of this condition of the tonsills. Doctors once thought the tonsill was of no use, now they say they can act as filters for the body & shouldn't be removed unless infected. SO DOC'S with a DEGREE or KNowledge(just the same) what's the verdict or a educated guest. SO far all your guesses are incorrect up to this point. Take another shot, this forum says your not even liable, what's to loose for
a educated guess or maybe will get a real doctor or KNOWLEDGEABLE person either or is fine. THANKS to all in advance for your time.
a educated guess or maybe will get a real doctor or KNOWLEDGEABLE person either or is fine. THANKS to all in advance for your time.
setagllib 2 decades ago
Found some info from another site:
Q: I hope this doesn't sound too gross, but both my sister and I get white particles in the pockets of our tonsils. She thinks it is food buildup but I think it is the bacteria that the tonsils build up. The stuff is like cauliflower, kind of hard and with a foul odor. She thinks she needs to have her tonsils out. Can you advise us on this? We both have it regularly, but our throats are not really sore.
A: Doesnt sound gross to me, but its probably a pretty gross problem for you and your sister.
These things are called tonsilloliths ("tonsil stones.") You have described them perfectly. They are typically white, or whitish-yellow, irregularly-shaped, foul-smelling, and usually smaller than a pea. The tissue lining the tonsils (oral mucosa) is fairly sensitive, so people with this problem often report that they feel an irritation in the back of their throat and are able to pick these critters out of their tonsils.
Like your skin, oral mucosa sheds continuously. The dead cells become incorporated in your saliva and then you swallow them. Yum! One more anatomical fact that you need to know: the surface of your tonsils is pockmarked with deep pits, appropriately called "crypts" (since dead stuff accumulates in these pits.) Oral mucosa lines the crypts. Under normal circumstances, as this mucosa sheds, the dead cells leave the crypts and are swallowed. In some unlucky people, like you and your sister, the dead cells accumulate and glom together to form hard little balls. All of this dead stuff makes great food for bacteria, and of course your oral cavity is colonized by all kinds of bacteria. Consequently, the tonsilloliths are ripe with bacteria. This accounts for the smell.
The only sure-fire method for ridding yourself of this problem is to have your tonsils removed (tonsillectomy), but there are nonsurgical alternatives which you should certainly pursue before you ask an ENT to take out your tonsils:
You could try gargling frequently with warm salt water (1 teaspoon of table salt mixed with one pint of water gargle with about 1/4 cup of this mixture three times per day, after meals.)
You could also gargle with a mouthwash called Alkalol, which is essentially salt water combined with a variety of natural aromatic extracts; some people prefer Alkalol to plain salt water. Most other commercial mouthwashes contain sugar or alcohol, which are pleasant-tasting but are, in the long run, fairly irritating if used frequently.
There is a doctor in Los Angeles, Murray Grossan, who markets a water-jet device for "hosing down" the tonsils. Relative to gargling, this device provides a more aggressive technique for clearing out those nasty crypts.
In the hopes of avoiding tonsillectomy, I will often put my patient on a long (3 to 4 week) course of antibiotics in the hope that this will allow the tonsils to "settle down" (become less inflamed.) I must admit that antibiotics are not a very effective cure for this problem.
If I had this problem, I would try all of these things before resorting to a tonsillectomy. You should also discuss your problem with an ENT, since he/she may have other suggestions to help eradicate these nasty critters, and could also give you information on what to expect from a tonsillectomy.
Q: I hope this doesn't sound too gross, but both my sister and I get white particles in the pockets of our tonsils. She thinks it is food buildup but I think it is the bacteria that the tonsils build up. The stuff is like cauliflower, kind of hard and with a foul odor. She thinks she needs to have her tonsils out. Can you advise us on this? We both have it regularly, but our throats are not really sore.
A: Doesnt sound gross to me, but its probably a pretty gross problem for you and your sister.
These things are called tonsilloliths ("tonsil stones.") You have described them perfectly. They are typically white, or whitish-yellow, irregularly-shaped, foul-smelling, and usually smaller than a pea. The tissue lining the tonsils (oral mucosa) is fairly sensitive, so people with this problem often report that they feel an irritation in the back of their throat and are able to pick these critters out of their tonsils.
Like your skin, oral mucosa sheds continuously. The dead cells become incorporated in your saliva and then you swallow them. Yum! One more anatomical fact that you need to know: the surface of your tonsils is pockmarked with deep pits, appropriately called "crypts" (since dead stuff accumulates in these pits.) Oral mucosa lines the crypts. Under normal circumstances, as this mucosa sheds, the dead cells leave the crypts and are swallowed. In some unlucky people, like you and your sister, the dead cells accumulate and glom together to form hard little balls. All of this dead stuff makes great food for bacteria, and of course your oral cavity is colonized by all kinds of bacteria. Consequently, the tonsilloliths are ripe with bacteria. This accounts for the smell.
The only sure-fire method for ridding yourself of this problem is to have your tonsils removed (tonsillectomy), but there are nonsurgical alternatives which you should certainly pursue before you ask an ENT to take out your tonsils:
You could try gargling frequently with warm salt water (1 teaspoon of table salt mixed with one pint of water gargle with about 1/4 cup of this mixture three times per day, after meals.)
You could also gargle with a mouthwash called Alkalol, which is essentially salt water combined with a variety of natural aromatic extracts; some people prefer Alkalol to plain salt water. Most other commercial mouthwashes contain sugar or alcohol, which are pleasant-tasting but are, in the long run, fairly irritating if used frequently.
There is a doctor in Los Angeles, Murray Grossan, who markets a water-jet device for "hosing down" the tonsils. Relative to gargling, this device provides a more aggressive technique for clearing out those nasty crypts.
In the hopes of avoiding tonsillectomy, I will often put my patient on a long (3 to 4 week) course of antibiotics in the hope that this will allow the tonsils to "settle down" (become less inflamed.) I must admit that antibiotics are not a very effective cure for this problem.
If I had this problem, I would try all of these things before resorting to a tonsillectomy. You should also discuss your problem with an ENT, since he/she may have other suggestions to help eradicate these nasty critters, and could also give you information on what to expect from a tonsillectomy.
setagllib 2 decades ago
Thank you "setagllib" for sharing your own experience with these "tonsil stones" and for obtaining the other information about what they actually are. Seems to be the most accurate thing I've heard so for about them. I'm sure that the advice for the alternative remedies for getting rid of the "tonsil stones" will help my husband rather than having the tonsils removed.
~Sonya
~Sonya
Sonya last decade
Take MERC. SOL. 6C
four times a day.
Report results after three weeks.
I don't see any reason why these bumps should not yeild to this treatment.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
four times a day.
Report results after three weeks.
I don't see any reason why these bumps should not yeild to this treatment.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
Do I need to get a prescription for "MERC. SOL. 6C"
Sonya 2 decades ago
I read somewhere that it is expected that 2%-3% of the population is affected by tonsilloliths. I find that very hard to believe. The first time I remember coughing one of these things up I was 5 and I couldn't get over how horrible it smelled. For the past few years I have made periodic tonsil checks which usually yield at least one tonsil stone. I'm 16 now and for the past year, these things have become a lot more common and I get about 4-5 a week. I've mentioned them to my doctor before and she told me that it is nothing to worry about. Last, I went to an ENT regarding a broken nose and upon examination he mentioned that my tonsils are much larger than normal and asked if this has ever concerned me. I just shrugged and didn't mention anything else about it. I will probably look in to having my tonsils removed in the near future. If they are collecting bacteria, causing sore throats, and are larger than normal there is no reason in my opinion to have these hindrances removed. I do have to say that I'm a little upset that I was never notified of the fact that I had "large tonsils" before last year. I know their size hasn't changed over the years. I'm also upset that the people with years of experience and study (and the people we are paying a lot of money to as well) are not able to effectively diagnose what seems to be a fairly common problem. A lot of my friends have tonsilloliths and it seems like a good amount of the population does....
Coconut08 2 decades ago
Thanks for your input Coconut08. I agree that these tonsilloliths are a hindrance! If using salt-water or other mouth washes isn't going to work effectively...removal is definitely the way to go. What a bother they cause for BAD BREATH! ...Self-consciousness sets in...
Sonya 2 decades ago
I am almost 30 and have had a toncil problem since I was 15. I'd say the thing that agravates them the most is cigargettee smoking - which I only do a few times a month. These are the things that I do to keep my toncils from getting to infected:
1) use mouthwash before bed (not scope, listerene is the only thing that works)
2) take chewable vitiman C before bed
3) sometime I wake up an bush my teeth in the middle of the night, if I get that bad taste in my mouth
4) I used to try the Qtip thing, but now know that the best way to get that crap out of your throat: close your mouth with no air in it, then close the thing in your head that makes it so no air comes out of your nose, and then using the muscles in your throat, your lungs and tongue, you can create a vacuum around your toncils, and that will pull the stuff out much better than a qtip. (man that sound so gross when you type it out)
5) If my toncils are infected, in addition to doing the first 4 things a lot, the things that will keep them from getting out of hand are: sleeping with a chewable vitamin C in my mouth, or in real emergancies, having a zinc losenge. I do not recommend this unless you KNOW that you are not going to choke.
I am debating getting the toncils removed, but these 4/5 things work so good that I never really have infections, just that white crap every once and a while, so all the doctors that I have talked to say I should leave them in - but what do they know.
1) use mouthwash before bed (not scope, listerene is the only thing that works)
2) take chewable vitiman C before bed
3) sometime I wake up an bush my teeth in the middle of the night, if I get that bad taste in my mouth
4) I used to try the Qtip thing, but now know that the best way to get that crap out of your throat: close your mouth with no air in it, then close the thing in your head that makes it so no air comes out of your nose, and then using the muscles in your throat, your lungs and tongue, you can create a vacuum around your toncils, and that will pull the stuff out much better than a qtip. (man that sound so gross when you type it out)
5) If my toncils are infected, in addition to doing the first 4 things a lot, the things that will keep them from getting out of hand are: sleeping with a chewable vitamin C in my mouth, or in real emergancies, having a zinc losenge. I do not recommend this unless you KNOW that you are not going to choke.
I am debating getting the toncils removed, but these 4/5 things work so good that I never really have infections, just that white crap every once and a while, so all the doctors that I have talked to say I should leave them in - but what do they know.
wct32 2 decades ago
If Doctor told you to remove
toncils by operation do following:
take Baryta Carb 6C four times a day and you will be cured.
if you don't take it,
no choice go get toncils removed.
Wish you the best AND HAPPY WEEKEND........
PANKAJ VARMA
toncils by operation do following:
take Baryta Carb 6C four times a day and you will be cured.
if you don't take it,
no choice go get toncils removed.
Wish you the best AND HAPPY WEEKEND........
PANKAJ VARMA
♡ PANKAJ VARMA 2 decades ago
I started to get these some years ago - when I think back it was after meeting a female I was in very close contact with...
Some time after finishing with her I met a new girl. One morning I heard a scream from the bathroom. My new girlfriend thought she had a disease as her throat was rotting - she could see white blobs at the back of her throat. She had now been introduced to tonsil stones...
I think that there's more than a tiny conicidence that she got them after meeting me - who got them after meeting someone else. She never had a sore throat (unlike me who's always getting tonsilitis), but got the stones. So my logic is that there's a little bug which makes the tonsil cavities no longer 'non stick' and traps the crap that makes the stones.
The medics did say the stomach was sterile until a few years ago - then they discovered Helicobactor Pylori...
Some time after finishing with her I met a new girl. One morning I heard a scream from the bathroom. My new girlfriend thought she had a disease as her throat was rotting - she could see white blobs at the back of her throat. She had now been introduced to tonsil stones...
I think that there's more than a tiny conicidence that she got them after meeting me - who got them after meeting someone else. She never had a sore throat (unlike me who's always getting tonsilitis), but got the stones. So my logic is that there's a little bug which makes the tonsil cavities no longer 'non stick' and traps the crap that makes the stones.
The medics did say the stomach was sterile until a few years ago - then they discovered Helicobactor Pylori...
albert22 2 decades ago
albert --what medicines/treatments (besides waht you have already mentioned) have you taken since age 15 for this?
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
albert22 2 decades ago
how often take antibiotics?
thsi been going on since 15(age)?
any problems/complaints with sleep?
any abdomen/digestive complaints ?
any white spots on/under fingernails?
thsi been going on since 15(age)?
any problems/complaints with sleep?
any abdomen/digestive complaints ?
any white spots on/under fingernails?
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
♡ John Stanton 2 decades ago
Sorry - I think you have me confused with the previous poster - my tonsil problems have been continuous since 6 years old, I was 'too young' to have them out - then over night, I was 'too old'. (The UK NHS...)
Sleep - I can sleep 15 hours in a row if I've a mind to and be wide awake for a day and a half after. * hours doesn't seem enough as I stil have red eyes. I don't have white spots now, but used to - strange, not one now... Stomach, occasionally - not so bad since HP was diagnosed and cured.
Sleep - I can sleep 15 hours in a row if I've a mind to and be wide awake for a day and a half after. * hours doesn't seem enough as I stil have red eyes. I don't have white spots now, but used to - strange, not one now... Stomach, occasionally - not so bad since HP was diagnosed and cured.
albert22 2 decades ago
I am replying to the post from: Re: White Bumps In Throat From setagllib on 2004-05-20
It's really great to finally know I am not the only person with these white bumps in my throat. I get the same exact thing. My doctor told me it was food partical build up. I like the answer that was given after your inquiry. Thank you for sharing your information with others to help in effort to rid of these little white smelly hard critters.
It's really great to finally know I am not the only person with these white bumps in my throat. I get the same exact thing. My doctor told me it was food partical build up. I like the answer that was given after your inquiry. Thank you for sharing your information with others to help in effort to rid of these little white smelly hard critters.
AcAzA 2 decades ago
Hello Sonya
Please give the patient merc sol30 amd borax2ch mixed equal 5 drops in half cup of water thrice a day for one week and then report
Please give the patient merc sol30 amd borax2ch mixed equal 5 drops in half cup of water thrice a day for one week and then report
hdrms2000 2 decades ago
Ugh! I'm so happy I found a site that helps me feel a little better about my own personal throat mutation. I was really starting to freak out. I definitely think I'm getting my tonsils out ASAP, only because, mine reappear each day w/ that funknasty odor of doom. So, I am giving into the removal option. But anyway, for those of you who want some free advice, I have been using one of those dental tools, I bought mine at walmart in the dental aisle. Anywho, you can creep into those odd tonsil holes and get them out really easily. Be careful not to poke and prod to hard, I have bled a few times from this. But, overall, it's a great removal technique of the "stinkballs". Peace and love to you other stinkers
krisc31 2 decades ago
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